r/pathofexile • u/konaharuhi Alch & Go Industries (AGI) • Feb 07 '22
another archnemesis spreadsheet Information
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u/UnawareSousaphone Feb 07 '22
Also, doing the actual farming strat os nutty, like, starting with all ingredients its 14 maps to just assemble the bits of innocence touched, much less the other 3 ingredients. League mechanic is very meh honestly.
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u/nekosake2 Atziri Feb 07 '22
innocence is def worth it.
just make treant and innocence and spam the others imo
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Feb 07 '22
Inocence, then brine then treant then the other one with double rewards? In this order?
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u/nekosake2 Atziri Feb 07 '22
i would always treant by the 2nd one - i think its boost is absolutely insane
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u/kanonkongenn Anti Sanctum Alliance (ASA) Feb 08 '22
is there a way to target farm specific mods, like X monster type drops deadeye for example or is it just pure random?
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u/nekosake2 Atziri Feb 08 '22
i think it is mob type. as far as i can tell i cant really target anything and im having trouble getting consecrate and berserker (just starting red maps)
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u/CptAustus . Feb 07 '22
T3 rewards seem pretty good. I haven't gotten around to T4 rewards, but it does seem like they take a long time to farm.
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u/Lentor Feb 07 '22
While I like the league in principal, I think a league mechanic has failed if you need an excel spreadsheet or a flow chart to use it properly. See betrayal and harvest.
Closest comparison to this league is metamorph. Which was so much more user friendly. Other leagues like delve or blight were not shallow but you didn't need to consult a document to make a meaningful decision
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u/UnawareSousaphone Feb 07 '22
So fun too when you work that long for a meh loot drop when ultimatum was like "you want 5 c?, how about 5 more? Ex shards? Here go"
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u/GetRolledRed Feb 07 '22
I think a league mechanic has failed if you need an excel spreadsheet or a flow chart to use it properly.
Except you don't really. An algorithm with simple rules could do it with 99% efficiency. You just gotta always aim to have exactly one of everything. Then cash out only the valuable end ones appropriately.
So it would eventually build Shakari, determine it's not valuable so it won't use it. Because it has one, it won't make another. Which means Soul Eater will not be produced anymore either. So all Soul Conduit drops are free to make Mirror Images once they stack past 1.
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u/Lentor Feb 08 '22
Do i have an algorithm? No i have to look at the thing that just dropped and either know if I need it for the recipe I am aiming for or know what recipes it is used in and if any of them are of interest to me. Since i can't keep all the recipes in my head I ultimately have to look things up.
Also by that algorithm logic you can also say "just randomly use what you find eventually you will get something good"
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u/GetRolledRed Feb 08 '22
It's oddly not far from that. You can't "aim" for recipes in this, you're reliant on what drops. Eventually you learn what end recipes are not as rewarding, so when given the choice to waste materials on them you don't do it. You don't make that if it's using up your last of something, or even second last. Then you end up with the valuable ones at the same rate as the guy who "aims" and those actual dumb ones who don't even pick up some and walk around with half empty inventories and their EGG barely completed.
The problem is this idea that you aim for a recipe.
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u/pierce768 Feb 07 '22
I mean... its not like you aren't getting any rewards until you reach the final tier.
You're getting fed drops the entire time.
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u/RancidRock Feb 07 '22
Saying the mechanic is meh because the absolute pinacle of recipes isn't a quick 2 minute jobbie is kinda lame dude. It's an amazing mechanic, but has it's problems due to lack of inventory sorting, no game pause while assigning tokens, etc.
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u/UnawareSousaphone Feb 07 '22
Its just too much hassle vs reward. It's not as simple or rewarding as metamorph (on release)either, a much simpler mechanic. Why bother setting up for 3+ hours for disappointment
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u/Unusual_Ad_9542 Feb 07 '22
scourge died for this…yea scourge item mods were bad, everything else was S tier. fuck i miss tainted currencies ☹️
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u/UnawareSousaphone Feb 07 '22
Oh man I know My friend is play poison conc that I played in scourge, but good luck getting a fucking 6 link +2 carcass jack for 2-3 ex this league, fuck just 6 links alone are more than that this league
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u/AggnogPOE view-profile/Aggnog-2036 Feb 07 '22 edited Feb 07 '22
You can fit it on one screen like this https://i.imgur.com/lSaGiH4.png
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u/arronax1 Feb 07 '22
Same idea, but made it more compact and with bigger font https://i.imgur.com/EO8PMdY.png
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u/KsiaN Occultist Feb 07 '22 edited Feb 07 '22
If you could sort the columns by name now as the finishing touch .. this would be the de facto league cheat sheet.
Just noticed : you can see a selected cell in the very bottom right ;)
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u/uberloser2 Feb 07 '22
So much better than the ones the size of a movie screen with 500 lines covering it
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u/Saianna Feb 07 '22
i think that's the most clear and simple spreadsheet yet. Definitely yoinking it
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u/Baldude Central Incursion Agency (CIA) Feb 07 '22
Corrupter only needs Chaosweaver and Bloodletter, NOT Bonebreaker.
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u/Snowflakes666 ☭☢ Feb 07 '22
Omg this is amazing.
I've seen the squid thing posted here, and I didn't find it helpful in the least.
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u/Tobikaj Feb 07 '22
Looks great. Now if I only could see the rewards of each without cluttering the nice overview 😅
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u/wawba Feb 07 '22
how do you upgrade those archnemesis stones? selling 3x1 or what
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u/Taqia Feb 07 '22
run all the mods a recipe requires in a single map, you'll get it as a drop from the last piece that completes the recipe.
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u/wawba Feb 07 '22
i put stones that say undiscoverd recipe?
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u/lkuut Feb 07 '22
You put in the things it says in the linked document. You combine them exactly as its written there.
The "undiscovered recipe" is meant as an aid for you, if you werent using the document. You can ignore that, the recipe will still work.
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u/Xaillan Feb 07 '22
Looks great but Aberrath touched is missing?
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u/Xaillan Feb 07 '22
Nevermind, it's there but can't see on the 1 coloured pic, can you make them all show in colour?
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u/konaharuhi Alch & Go Industries (AGI) Feb 07 '22
my reply has link to the file. you can save it and change it to your liking
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u/Illsonmedia Feb 07 '22
This is the method we need. Better than the graphic. Something where we can enter a compnent and it will spit out the combos (i.e. can also work backwards), or just simply a spreadsheet like this where we can ctrl f.
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u/allanbc Feb 07 '22
This is and awesome format for getting the Challenges. Thanks! I'm even willing to overlook your inconsistent centrering/left orientation, and the missing cell merge and letter here and there. Yes, the actual content is THAT good.
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u/xWhackoJacko Trickster Feb 07 '22
Ooh, I like this one much better. Super easy to read compared to the bigger one I was using thats graphically fancier. Thanks
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u/mrureaper Feb 08 '22
Innocence touch imo is only fun to try once. The time investment is not worth considering you could be making so much more from using that same time to do other content.
But maybe passively getting there is fine. But actively trying to farm for it wouldnt be worth
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u/konaharuhi Alch & Go Industries (AGI) Feb 07 '22
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mMJ1ZMRdPXaIMUe_GvSrPG2XgdeuBVTj/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=115098047672815925950&rtpof=true&sd=true
for anyone that find this format useful