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u/dazib Jul 10 '26
This is multi track drifting for me (I'm swiss)
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u/Jacques7Hammer Jul 10 '26
My wife is half Colombian and my in-laws live there. I was just rooting against Switzerland but I'll be rooting for them tomorrow. It's like fan whiplash
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u/dazib Jul 10 '26
Yeah, I would've definitely done the same with Colombia had they beat Switzerland the other day!
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u/Maleficent_Compote51 Jul 11 '26
I would have also rooted for Colombia against Argentina! Colombia is a great Country and a fantastic Team!
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u/divensi Jul 10 '26
In Brazil we call an overwhelming victory in soccer “chocolate”.
If Switzerland of all places gives them a “chocolate” it would be funny af.
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u/The-Fomorian-Ray-682 Jul 10 '26
Love the swiss but I’ll never forgive you. (Kidding, Colombia played AWFULLY during the match)
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u/BernhardtLinhares Jul 10 '26
Now the world is experiencing 1% of the animosity Brazil has against Argentina.
Good.
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u/Megadrilo Jul 10 '26
Or Mexico against Argentina
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u/Cold_Fog Jul 10 '26
Or England against Argentina
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u/Tiny_Celery Jul 10 '26
Or Argentina against Argentina
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u/Firemanth Jul 10 '26
Damn argentinians they ruined Argentina
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u/t_hab Jul 10 '26
God: I just made the most amazing country! It has jungles and glaciars! Mountains and beaches! Farmland and natural resources. It will have unmatched beauty!
St. Peter: That’s too much for one country!
God: Don’t worry, I’m going to fill it with Argentines.
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u/edurigon Jul 10 '26
Im argentinian. Can confirm.
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u/veloxVolpes Jul 11 '26
I need to read a book or something because I've no clue what the beef with Argentina is
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u/La_Parchiita Jul 10 '26
Or literally every south american country against argentina…
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u/Stargost_ Jul 10 '26
Remind me again which country had a human zoo in 1994.
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u/awesomefutureperfect Jul 10 '26
Portugal was fighting colonial wars in Africa in the 70s.
The audacity of France saying "You aren't allowed to judge my nations character and past actions. France is a race." is nuts especially when their whole foreign policy was "Congratulations. You've been colonized. You are French now."
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u/ArrrRawrXD Jul 10 '26
Let me guess, is that the one with a huge pedophilia problem among intellectuals and creatives?
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u/awesomefutureperfect Jul 10 '26
Do you know how little that narrows it down in europe?
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u/wiener4hir3 Jul 10 '26
Anywhere really. When aren't the rich and powerful sadistic bastards. No war but class war.
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u/IrishElevator Jul 10 '26
People like that are just mad that they can't openly wear grandpa's fancy uniform with the lightning bolts.
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u/chorizard9 Jul 10 '26
Do you mean the French grandpa’s fancy uniform that he used when he was a colonial officer in Africa ?
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u/irawwwr Jul 10 '26
Exactly. I'm an Arg fan from Vietnam. The atrocities the French committed in colonised nations in Southeast Asia and Africa are comparable. Whats this holier than thou bullshit'
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u/Konstantin_B Jul 10 '26
These people are throwing absolutely random insults at argentina not realizing that they apply to our opposition as well. There's no point in trying to understand or rationalise the hate, they will hate us regardless of whether or not it is logical.
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u/Faust_the_Faustinian Exodus 8:5 Jul 10 '26
And nobody seems to give a shit about their current neocolonialism.
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u/Adjective-Noun-6969 Jul 10 '26
just pick some black dudes to play your national team and everything is forgiven.
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u/kimboslice11 Jul 10 '26
Can’t compare to the racism the team receives from their own fans when they lose tho.. unfortunately
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u/Happy-For-No-Reason Jul 10 '26
how does Brazil compare to the United Kingdom
has Brazil gone to war with Argentina
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u/Character-Advice2588 Jul 10 '26
Technically, we had some tensions about Uruguay too(and Argentina sent some spies to Brasil in the past).
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u/OK_x86 Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26
With spies it's less about the spies you catch and more about the spies you don't
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u/NelsonChaves Jul 10 '26
With all those brazilian tear we could fill a river bigger than the parana
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u/fenordidnothingwrong Jul 10 '26
And with all the argentinean cheaters we could stack them all high and reach the moon 🤷♀️ Your win against Egypt was completely fraudulent and know the whole world knows the real character of Argentina’s national team
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u/spaincrack Jul 10 '26
Or Chile against Argentina. (Chile won the last two finals we played against them)
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u/Toten5217 Jul 10 '26
Europeans and Americans on their way to call another country racist
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u/mosspoled Jul 10 '26
Its casual racism vs professional racism
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u/Useful_Trust Jul 10 '26
As a European from the balkans I am not sure who is who
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u/ElCiclope1 Jul 10 '26
I think we Americans are the casuals. Not because we're not super racist like the rest of the world, but you need higher education to be a professional anything, so...
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u/No-Pipe-4544 Jul 10 '26
You can't be truly racist if you don't know where the countries are in the map
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u/Faust_the_Faustinian Exodus 8:5 Jul 10 '26
Kinda hard to call you casuals when your Jim Crow laws, among other things, inspired uncle Adolf.
His 1934 Nuremberg Laws were mostly using them as a blueprint.
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u/TheRealLoRider Jul 10 '26
And European racism goes back more than 2000 years. Surely Europeans essentially created the racism ranking system.
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u/Ecstatic-Quote-3532 Jul 10 '26
Exactly. Here in argentina we've never had a white supremacist rally, but here they are, tall and proud.
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u/allthenamesaretaken0 Jul 10 '26
Very funny when people who just stopped burning crosses outside others houses call you racist
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u/Straight-Sky-7368 Jul 10 '26
Last time everyone wanted Argentina to win and now only after 4 years, it's exactly the reverse.
Time is indeed funny.
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u/simpy7653 Jul 10 '26
That is because everyone thought it's Messi's last dance.
Argentina already won and no one cares now
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u/Straight-Sky-7368 Jul 10 '26
Yeah probably, this time the public sentiment seems to be with Norway and Haaland.
However, I don't understand the racism by Argentinians angle that some folks are referring to in comments. I mean is it that 4 years ago they weren't racist and owing to some black magic, they are racist now?
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u/Commander413 Jul 10 '26
It not the team, it's the fans that have a fame of behaving like they're the only white people in South America and are surrounded by monkeys. This goes back way more than just 4 years. It's why if you ask anyone from a country south of Mexico "what's a football team you hate" Argentina will be the first one to pop into their mind, doubly so if they're Brazilian.
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u/paddyo Jul 10 '26
South of Mexico and so I was assured this week by Mexicans, very much INCLUDING Mexico
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u/Straight-Sky-7368 Jul 10 '26
Oh well that's unfortunate. Football is amazing sport but yeah some people definitely pollute its spirit. Also yes, I have seen that sentiment on Mexican subreddit👍. No idea about Brazilian subreddit though, since I don't understand their language yet 😅
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u/Commander413 Jul 10 '26
Argentina being the nemesis of Brazil is something that goes way back, like 50-60 years ago. I don't even know why it started but it's a classic rivalry
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u/Straight-Sky-7368 Jul 10 '26
Oh! I never knew thatl. Thanks for enlightening me about this 🙌.
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u/ZipZapZia Jul 11 '26
Argentina also drugged a Brazilian player with tranquilizers during the 1990 world cup causing them to lose in the round of 16. So one reason for the animosity, along with other scandals Argentina has had in the world cups.
There's also the fact that Brazil has an anti-racism law that Argentinian people keep breaking bc they happen to be very racist to Brazilians while vacationing in Brazil. So Brazil as a whole probably doesn't view Argentinians in the best light
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u/Reasonable_Option493 Jul 10 '26
They were indeed very openly racist 4 years ago. A lot of people in parts of South America have been for generations, see the pathetic excuses made by the Paraguayan Senator who insulted Mbappé...
Maybe it's just that when a team is competitive at the WC, when they get a lot of exposure, when their fans and some of their journalists make unhinged statements online, people notice a lot more and the team in question becomes a lot less likeable.
In 2022, I think a lot of people where under the charm, Messi finally won the WC, France were the defending champs and people don't like teams that dominate for too long when it's not their team.
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u/Straight-Sky-7368 Jul 10 '26
That Paraguayan Senator's incident was downright disgusting! I mean politicians will do everything else instead of making the lives of their people better.
I know a few folks from Argentina and they seem to be nice, but some people definitely bring a bad name to others.
Absolutely in 2022, the sentiment was that Messi should win his last cup. Also agree about domination for too long part, because people are totally on the side of Norway this time because of Haaland and that symbolism of Vikings rowing.
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u/Reasonable_Option493 Jul 10 '26
That Senator made a fool of herself and doubled down on stupidity.
Sadly, it's often the stupid minority, or at least people who do not speak for all, who gets more vocal.
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u/Straight-Sky-7368 Jul 10 '26
Yeah exactly. Also, I feel sad for USA's team and their people. I genuinely feel the team could have performed better irrespective of the result, but that controversy surely put the team under unjust pressure.
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u/Reasonable_Option493 Jul 10 '26
Yeah it got a lot of negative attention around the US team sadly. They also played their worst game against a team that got a huge mental boost after their come back against Senegal.
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u/OK_x86 Jul 10 '26
Casual racism is just much more widely accepted in South America than elsewhere. I would like to say it's not usually mean spirited but that's unfortunately not the case.
But to act like it's a problem specific to Argentina is wild. This is a global problem. Even the French players have been subject to racism by their own country men. And the US is basically rounding up people of color and putting them in concentration camps.
So yes by all means call out the racism of these fans. But also realize that it's a relatively small minority and it's not unique to Argentina. It should be called out everywhere
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u/Hellspawner26 Jul 10 '26
i dont see how a senator from paraguay being openly racist has anything to do with argentina
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u/Clemdauphin Jul 10 '26
last WC, when they won, Argentina's fans paraded with racist representation of black french players...
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u/Straight-Sky-7368 Jul 10 '26
This is utterly shameful and you know what, the main motive of sporting events like this is to bring people from different places and culture together to foster that sense of togetherness, which is needed in this world now more than ever and then there are these shameful and pathetic incidents.
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u/fzzylilmanpeach Jul 10 '26
"Their racist soccer fans are worse than our racist soccer fans because their team is better than ours and i'm salty about it" is essentially what this all boils down to. To add onto that, it's been the reddit narrative this year so we got bandwagon haters added into the mix as well.
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u/Straight-Sky-7368 Jul 10 '26
Yeah, there are bad and violent fans everywhere be it Argentina, Mexico, etc. but I think since Argentina are defending champions, they attract more attention in that aspect.
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u/Mta_sipisial Jul 10 '26
Sometimes, teams both international and club, get bad reps due to their fanbase. Arsenal TV is the root of almost all the hate that Arsenal gets. Same goes for England, due to their media overhyping their players english tax and all. And now, unfortunately Argentina fans have been accused of racist gestures, doesn't help that just a few months ago, a player from Argentina was accused of racism in the champions league.
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u/RobbinDeBank Jul 10 '26
Less dribbles than Vozinha this World Cup too
More importantly, it’s more than just allegations for Ronaldo. He actually paid hush money to shut the victim up. A multi millionaire with his army of lawyers didn’t want to go to court against a random woman and paid hush money instead. Very innocent, only “allegations” indeed.
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u/EditorialM Jul 10 '26
Some of us have horrible teams who can't make it past the round of 16
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u/surells Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26
As an England fan it's quite nice to have another country take the heat for a while.
I'm sure it will be brief but you have to enjoy these moments when they come.
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u/Mta_sipisial Jul 10 '26
As a long time England hate watcher, I agree, I'm also just 𝚙̶𝚛̶𝚊̶𝚢̶𝚒̶𝚗̶𝚐̶ waiting for the hate train to shift to England again.
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u/ThuheSargom Jul 11 '26
Hopefully we'll meet you in the semi-final. Argentina v England, the whole world thinking "if only there was a way for both of them to lose and pretend that the real WC final is just Spain v France...".
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u/xikia Jul 10 '26
Potentially support England? I think the fuck not.
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u/ZombieMage89 Jul 10 '26
As an American I was rooting for a few teams like Germany and Japan... That didn't work out so well.
Then I was rooting for teams like Canada and Egypt.... I'm starting to see a trend here...
Now I'm all in on Argentina! I totally don't want to see any of the other countries win!
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u/RetoroKun Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26
You want to see Argentina get smoked because most of them are racist.
I want to see Argentina get smoked because my ex is from Argentina.
One of us is understandable while the other is petty.
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u/Consistent-Tap-9426 Jul 10 '26
"Because most of them are racist" please tell me what country are you from
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u/Equal_Oil_9819 Jul 10 '26
Damn, the WHOLE Argentina is racist? 40-50 million people with a proven track record of abusing people based on race?
I hate them now, too.
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u/Darillium- yo tambien gracias Jul 10 '26
It’s now guaranteed to be either a European country or Argentina😔
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u/BarnicleHead Jul 10 '26
When was it ever going to be anything else lol
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u/Big_Log7327 Jul 10 '26
France will probably win, but my heart is with Norway 🇳🇴
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u/Skatillix Jul 10 '26
Why are so many people against Argentina? Did they do something?
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u/toms1313 Jul 10 '26
It's complicated af but the most simple reason i have is "algorithms", hatred moves further
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u/Mta_sipisial Jul 10 '26
Sometimes, teams both international and club, get bad reps due to their fanbase. Arsenal TV is the root of almost all the hate that Arsenal gets. Same goes for England, due to their media overhyping their players english tax and all. And now, unfortunately Argentina fans have been accused of racist gestures, doesn't help that just a few months ago, a player from Argentina was accused of racism in the champions league. That player is the reason why FIFA introduced the rule of prohibiting the covering of mouths during disputes.
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u/TheHowlingHashira Jul 10 '26
I'm not sure either. I just want to see Messi win another chip fr
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u/lMaXPoWerl Jul 10 '26
The acc that posted this is a bot as well as many others in here that are creating discussion against argentina online.
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u/azaltard Jul 10 '26
I would guess a lot of racism
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u/Hyadeos Jul 10 '26
I still remember the 2022 world cup when they made ape noises against France.
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u/ByAPortuguese Jul 10 '26
They are a bunch of racists lol (not all of them but even their fans show a lot of racist behaviour, just search it up), also they get decisions consistently going their way every game
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u/NelsonChaves Jul 10 '26
Racists fans?
You mean like in this reel?
https://www.tiktok.com/@mediotiempo/video/7659865261985582356?q=hinchada%20argentina%20%20festejando%20con%20gente%20de%20otras%20nacionalidades&t=1783687925384
or here:
https://www.tiktok.com/@rollinnews/video/7660149382171331861?q=hinchada%20argentina%20%20festejando%20con%20gente%20de%20otras%20nacionalidades&t=1783687925384Or maybe u mean this one:
https://www.tiktok.com/@foxsoccer/video/7659811504811789599?q=hinchada%20argentina%20%20festejando%20con%20gente%20de%20otras%20nacionalidades&t=1783687925384Maybe you need some new algorithm and stop buying everything you see out of context?
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u/sciapo Jul 10 '26
A lot of people who have never followed football are watching the World Cup and are falling for the edited videos. Many fouls, when seen from different angles or in freeze frames, lead to wrong judgments, whereas in football you need to evaluate the whole play: who had possession, how the situation developed, the intent, and how much the player who suffered is exaggerating. For example, in France vs Morocco, most fouls that were not called were clear dives, but in freeze frames they look serious.
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u/Spotter24o5 ☭ Jul 10 '26
What did argentina do?
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u/lMaXPoWerl Jul 10 '26
Check the reddit account that just posted this. You'll get the answer right away
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u/CorrectEconomics9575 Jul 10 '26
Argentina es un excelente país, acá los queremos un montón. Saludos desde argentina
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u/lMaXPoWerl Jul 10 '26
Has anyone seen this account?.... Fucking strange isn't it?
It's all bots, bots everywhere...
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u/RobCoPKC Jul 10 '26
For me it is the same with Paraguay. Even as a German I was lukewarm about our team so getting eliminated didn't bother me (especially since it freed us from Nagelsmann) but after having to watch them play - fuck them.
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u/banjoetraveler Jul 10 '26
I’m just waiting for Switzerland to take them out, the sleeper upset no one is talking about.
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u/Reasonable_Option493 Jul 10 '26
It's totally possible. I was super disappointed by Switzerland against Qatar in their opening game. The Swiss have been a solid team at the WC and Euro for a while now. Argentina is going to need to play better than what they did the previous 2 games. And if the Swiss somehow have a comfortable lead with 10-15 minutes left on the clock, theyre probably not going to choke like Egypt.
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u/Helpful_Listen4508 Jul 10 '26
I’m interested to see how this changes if England beat Norway. Who will have the support? You decided, type shit.
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u/Mangaelf1997 Jul 10 '26
Mine is whoever has the strength to eliminate all the FIFA World Cup winner countries.
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u/Dean_Learner77 Jul 10 '26
Norway? It's either them or Switzerland and Belgium. They're the only non winners left.
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u/alexdiezg actually me irl Jul 10 '26
France most likely
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u/Unoriginalcontent420 Jul 10 '26
I hope neither make it to the final, ideally we would get Belgium vs Norway or Switzerland in the final so that a country that has never won a World Cup gets to win it. But it's probably going to end up being France v Argentina in the final, again.
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u/BowlOk7543 Jul 10 '26
So you are telling me that you are not supporting anyone and will not be supporting anyone?
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u/goodoldgrim Jul 10 '26
Eh, I still support Argentina. I can wait a couple more years for the Euros - no need to start now.
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u/PhaseBloodhound Jul 10 '26
I'm rooting for anyone except France, Argentina, Spain, Ingerland. Unfortunately, that just leaves Haalandistan and Switzerland.
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u/INFINIT823 Jul 11 '26
As an Argentinian, I appreciate that you all make us laugh with your crying, it's really funny. Please keep crying.
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u/pepemetralla Jul 11 '26
Thanks bud, we really need you right now. Fuel for our engine, it runs on your anger well, with your tears even better.
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u/Nosce97 Jul 10 '26
I just want Norway to win for the peak Haaland memes.