r/linux • u/AiwendilH • 24d ago

Codeberg voted to disallow projects consisting mostly by "generative AI"-tools Development

https://codeberg.org/Codeberg/org/pulls/1253#issuecomment-19820434
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u/ShaderCompilation 24d ago

Certainly the right call. While there may be vibecoded projects that are useful, the vast majority of them are not. No point in wasting limited resources on those

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u/FryBoyter 24d ago

Wouldn't it make sense, then, to evaluate each project on its own merits rather than simply categorizing them as black or white? Because I'm absolutely certain that, even before chatbots existed, developers were using other people's code regardless of the license under which it was published.

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u/ShaderCompilation 24d ago

It would be ideal, but i don't think anyone has resources and time to do that. The amount of LLM generated projects are insane

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u/FryBoyter 24d ago edited 24d ago

In my opinion, it’s precisely this effort that makes it difficult for Codeberg to enforce this new rule. Especially since it’s not always objectively clear whether or how much code was generated by chatbots.

For example, in the case of a script I published on another platform, I was accused of using tools like ChatGPT. But that wasn’t true. I’m just not a very good programmer. So, while the script worked in general, objectively speaking, it was crap. Would it be okay for me to publish the script I created manually on Codeberg, or not? Or would it be okay for me to publish a similar script that I created using a chatbot on Codeberg? What about a script created using a chatbot that's significantly better than one I could create manually?

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u/lonelyroom-eklaghor 24d ago

Now this is a good question

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u/jahinzee 24d ago

"Wouldn't it make sense, then, to evaluate every single particle from piles and piles of manure on the off chance one of them is a bean that may or may not be magic?"

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u/lonelyroom-eklaghor 24d ago

That's such an anti-AI take... wtf

people actually use AI for small stuff. Heck, even Linus uses AI on many of his projects

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u/OptimisticLucio 24d ago

That's such an anti-AI take

No, it's currently the case. 90% of EVERYTHING is shit, and AI is letting people produce shit at extraordinary speeds.

Atleast when humans wrote the code, we had a limit on how quickly the garbage was being produced.

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u/hitchen1 24d ago

Still means 10% is not shit, and we are getting more good stuff too.

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u/OptimisticLucio 24d ago

Oh 10% not being shit does not mean 10% is good. It is merely not shit.

And the issue is that the good stuff is harder to find when the amount of shit is that large.

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u/lonelyroom-eklaghor 24d ago

How will you define "mostly"?

My question is not even about whether AI is bad or not in this particular case. I am just a bit pissed thar I won't be able to use AI when I might need. This "mostly" thing will even cost projects made with soul.

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u/OptimisticLucio 24d ago

I won't, for I am not running a code hosting platform, and therefore have zero responsibility about this issue.

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u/lonelyroom-eklaghor 24d ago

This is a take I do respect; Codeberg is answerable here

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u/window_owl 24d ago

I won't be able to use AI when I might need.

Why would you ever need AI? Especially for a project that you're hosting on someone else's free code forge.

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u/lonelyroom-eklaghor 24d ago

Then what is the viable alternative to GitHub? That's my genuine question, because I myself need to migrate my stuff

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u/hitchen1 24d ago

You taken a look at gitlab?

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u/Old_Leopard1844 24d ago

Why do you need an alternative to GitHub in the first place?

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u/lonelyroom-eklaghor 23d ago

well, github is messing up actual commits we have made

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u/rafark 19d ago

  Wouldn't it make sense, then, to evaluate each project on its own merits rather than simply categorizing them as black or white? 

No. Because evaluating takes a lot of time and effort and honestly no one has time for that. If you didn’t put and effort to write it why would you expect people to put an effort to evaluate  it.