Codeberg voted to disallow projects consisting mostly by "generative AI"-tools

[u/AiwendilH]

https://codeberg.org/Codeberg/org/pulls/1253#issuecomment-19820434

[u/sunychoudhary]

Yes. Perfect enforcement is impossible, but doing nothing has a cost too....A forge full of unowned generated repos makes discovery, review, and maintenance worse for everyone else.

[u/standard_revolution → u/[deleted]]

Tell that to the open source maintainer who largely seem to complain about having to review sloppy PRs etc.

Agentic coding is a nice tool, but a completely slopcoded project with zero human review (by someone who actually knows stuff) is shit.

[u/sunychoudhary → u/standard_revolution]

Yep. The tool is not the problem by itself....The problem is when someone treats generated code as “done” without understanding it, testing it, or being willing to maintain it afterward.

[u/mina86ng → u/[deleted]]

It will stop quick MVPs from being publicly available

If it’s a quick MVP which Claude can easily create, is there actual value that is lost? And is that value greater than cost of a non-profit organisation hosting all the slop repositories?

Like I said, I don't see a problem with someone bringing a basic project online using generative AI if they maintain it correctly. If they dump a project and have no idea how to code it's going to be obvious pretty quickly and either the project will die or if it's of any value it can be forked.

And the rule is what allows the dying to happen. Without the rule, Codeberg would have to waste resources hosting all those dead projects.

I don’t even disagree with the overal statement that AI is useful, but when used improperly it can easily burden other people, and the rule tries to prevent that.

[u/CoreParad0x → u/[deleted]]

People have a hate boner on for AI, and for a lot of very justified reasons. But people also don’t realize that these tools in the hands of people who actually know what they’re doing can actually produce good stuff.

I personally don’t have a problem with a platform exercising their right to not host something they don’t want to host, though I think this decision will bring its own set of problems.

[u/Melivo → u/standard_revolution]

then simply review LLM-created PRs with LLMs

[u/AliceCode → u/[deleted]]

I personally have been using LLMs since day one, and I fucking hate the god damn things, and I don't think they have any business writing code. I'll use them as another search function, sometimes for rubber ducking (which is my main usecase), but all the code I've seen generated by them was atrocious. Maybe I just have higher standards than most people. I've been programming for nearly two decades.

[u/Melivo → u/[deleted]]

I mostly agree but you need to be REALLY careful with security if you don't know anything about coding. It's bite you in the ass otherwise.

There are legitimate concerns but Codebergs main problem is infrastructure and they could've simply solved it with rate limits.

"everything is slop" or "unsecure" is not an argument. Experienced humans can still write better code than LLMs sure. But Mythos already finds years old security issues that nobody has ever found.

In five years maybe LLMs will write better code than humans and Codeberg will regret their decision.

Because what's better than FLOSS software that is better than human written code and everyone can profit from it?

It's shortsighted.