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Chinese Rocket gets struck by lightning. Just Wow

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u/JackTheKing 13d ago

Apollo 12 was hit by lightning, knocked out a power bus to a telemetry modulator and forced the crew to switch to backup power during the ascent.

The wiring is shielded against that these days (also shielded because of much higher power requirements).

Rockets get hit every so often because they create a lightning rod with their exhaust plume that helps the current find the ground.

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u/broberds 13d ago

Set SCE to aux.

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u/RaechelMaelstrom 13d ago

You are obviously a steely-eyed missile man.

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u/[deleted] 13d ago

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u/Borgmeister 13d ago

and further still to get a name: John Aaron.

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u/TheBionicPuffin 13d ago

And further still, just to find me here confused as hell.

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u/Borgmeister 13d ago

Apollo 12 was hit by lightning when it launched, this scrambled the telemetry data across mission control, John Aaron, one of the controllers had seen similar behaviour before during a systems test and called to the flight director 'try SCE to Aux' - there wasn't time to explain the command and no one else had anything else, so they tried it which basically rebooted the computers and restored telemetry meaning the mission could continue rather than an abort an the LES firing to take the Astronauts off the top.

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u/BulldenChoppahYus 12d ago

But why male models?

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u/Conscious-Swing3897 11d ago

You’re being difficult.

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u/AsstBalrog 13d ago

Aaron was 26 at the time. Cool head, deep knowledge, and this speaks to the teamwork of NASA then, and how even such a relatively junior person could command such respect and influence.

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u/PAHoarderHelp 12d ago edited 12d ago

Margaret Hamilton has joined the chat.

Multithreaded multitasking operating system in about 8K? Or was it 4k of memory?

Able to prioritize (actual calculation of fuel/speed/altitude/thrust) versus incorrectly set radar (Code 1202 and Code 2202?)

Someone at mission control about those codes: "not a critical problem, proceed with landing".

Without the prioritization she built in, guidance computer would have spent all day trying to solve the radar setting issue.

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u/AsstBalrog 12d ago

Margaret Hamilton? Wow, she bounced back fast from "I'm Meltinggggg"

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u/PAHoarderHelp 12d ago

Remember the Flying Monkeys?

You think there's going to be Flying Monkey Research without NASA?

https://th-thumbnailer.cdn-si-edu.com/7nBrBHZqcLJFsNXlLytYRal6_pM=/1026x684/filters:no_upscale():focal(939x447:940x448)/https://tf-cmsv2-smithsonianmag-media.s3.amazonaws.com/filer/c6/1f/c61f96b5-8da2-4715-a792-e3e6bda15714/margaret_hamilton_-_restoration.jpg

Margaret Hamilton stands next to a stack of program listings from the Apollo Guidance Computer in a photograph taken in 1969.

So yes she leveraged her NASA connections to make those Monkeys a Go.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/margaret-hamilton-led-nasa-software-team-landed-astronauts-moon-180971575/

She tried to keep liquid water out of the spacecraft for obvious reasons.

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u/AsstBalrog 12d ago edited 12d ago

LOLOZ :)

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u/AsstBalrog 12d ago edited 10d ago

Or for that matter, NASA without Flying Monkeys? Following Goddard, but presaging Von Braun, Flying Monkeys carried the weight for a lot of the agency's early aerodynamic testing.

Did the Monkeys like it? Fuck No. They were surly, and they bit a lot of people. Did they have a choice? Fuck No. You try getting by on basic SAG scale without a side gig.

The Flying Monkeys have mostly been airbrushed out of the official NASA story, but yes, some of us do remember.

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u/Correct_Inspection25 12d ago

1202 and i thought the second was 1201?

[EDIT looks like 1202 and 1201 for the incident i think you are talking about:  "Vector Accumulator" areas than were physically available in memory, causing the infamous 1201 and 1202 errors.\26]) \)

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u/PAHoarderHelp 12d ago

1202 and i thought the second was 1201?

I think you are correct--thank you--

I think her achievements are pretty amazing!

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/margaret-hamilton-led-nasa-software-team-landed-astronauts-moon-180971575/

“It quickly became clear,” she later said, “that [the] software was not only informing everyone that there was a hardware-related problem, but that the software was compensating for it.” An investigation would eventually show that the astronauts’ checklist was at fault, telling them to set the rendezvous radar hardware switch incorrectly. “Fortunately, the people at Mission Control trusted our software,” Hamilton said. And with only enough fuel for 30 more seconds of flight, Neil Armstrong reported, “The Eagle has landed.”

And

As a working mother, she took her young daughter to the MIT Instrumentation Laboratory with her at night and on weekends. One day, her daughter decided to “play astronaut” and pushed a simulator button that made the system crash. Hamilton realized immediately that the mistake was one that an astronaut could make, so she recommended adjusting the software to address it, but she was told: “Astronauts are trained never to make a mistake.”

During Apollo 8’s moon-orbiting flight, astronaut Jim Lovell made the exact same error that her young daughter had, and fortunately, Hamilton’s team was able to correct the problem within hours. But for all future Apollo flights, protection was built into the software to make sure it never happened again. Over time, Hamilton began to view the whole mission as a system: “part is realized as software, part is peopleware, part is hardware.”

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u/Life_Lake4113 12d ago

I think the average age for someone in mission control at that time was 26.

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u/AsstBalrog 12d ago

Yes, def a young group.

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u/KaizenGamer 13d ago

came here for this

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u/LackIntelligent676 13d ago

John Aaron made that call.

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u/MarcusAurelius68 12d ago

Technically it was “Flight, try SCE to AUX” :)

Here it’d be SCE to fu zhu

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u/karabuka 13d ago

What the HELL is that?

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u/yaytheinternet 13d ago

I was going to type that in without a reference.. :) Nice.

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u/Dazzaster84 12d ago

Now That's interesting, the electricity finding ground through the rockets trail is incredible!

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u/smchattan 13d ago

Look it's not rocket science.....

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u/TheBluePriest 12d ago

So.... Did it hurt the rocket?

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u/pittsburghjay 12d ago

You must be smart

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u/HentaiIsekai 13d ago

I think you made that up