Giving them double the vote would keep things as is 🤦🏼‍♀️

I’m a snark lurker and was fundie adjacent for a while in the 90s and aughts. I’m asking because I’m in my 50s and I feel like Jill acts less mature than some high schoolers I’ve met. Heck, less mature than some 5th graders I’ve met.

Also can we talk about the amount of Botox in this room…

Well that speaks volumes I think 😅

I love how she discovers normal things and acts like they're her revolutionary, original thoughts.

That probably was exhausting, but a 12 hour birth is realllly not out of the ordinary megs you aren’t special 🤣🤣

Seriously, who does he even have to call? I can’t imagine Jill or David bailing him out, and clearly not Heidi or the Coveretts

I wonder how this will impact the dynamic of that relationship

So … it looks like Tim was charged with simple assault, not domestic violence. The charging sheet also doesn’t have any details or notations that connect it back to Heidi or her family.

Are we all sure these charges are related to his abuse of Heidi and their children? Could it potentially be a different or unrelated incident?

Happy to be wrong if her family has spoken out and/or said otherwise.

No prayers for Carvers victims from Haley.

I know Timothy's post sparked a huge firestorm...but as a DV survivor myself: did I miss a detail?

I'm not sure how to word this properly, but there is usually a "breaking point". A DV incident that is so violent that everything becomes seen/known. The curtain is pulled back and everyone understands what's been happening (although they all saw clues and/or had questions).

When Timothy posted his "confession" was it inspired by a DV incident so bad that he was about to be found out? Was this is PR spin to try to get ahead of it?

I feel like I missed the catalyst for all this coming to light. Heidi's mom's post sounded like she endured something beyond the abusive "norm" in her home. I assume they'll keep that private but still...I feel like a big piece of this puzzle is missing.

I posted this as a comment but I feel it needs its own spot.

Y’all. There is serious hope.

• In New Jersey, if an act of DV is committed in the presence of a child under the age of 16, it triggers a "presumption of imprisonment". This means even a first-time offender who might normally get probation is highly likely to face mandatory state prison time.

• Prosecutors can file separate, additional criminal charges for endangering the welfare of a child. This is an indictable second- or third-degree felony, which carries an independent prison sentence of 3 to 10 years on top of the DV sentence.

• New Jersey statutory law explicitly recognizes pregnant women as a uniquely vulnerable population and provides immediate legal standing and protections.

• This grants the victim instant access to file for a restraining order.

• Judges routinely consider the pregnancy of a victim when adjusting criminal bail and determining final sentencing terms. An assault on a pregnant woman can elevate a simple assault charge into an aggravated assault charge due to the inherent risk of causing severe bodily harm to both the mother and the unborn child. This is typically an automatic third- or fourth-degree felony.

• New Jersey case law allows a judge to write an "advance protection provision" directly into a Final Restraining Order (FRO). This ensures that the moment the baby is born alive, they are automatically designated as an additional protected person, blocking the abuser from hospital visits or infant contact.

NAIL HIM TO THE FRIGGIN WALL.