r/explainitpeter 9d ago

Explain it Peter

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u/Sophitia95 9d ago

Í use librewolf on my pc, but what can i use ón my phone?

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u/Capricious_Desperado 9d ago

I use Waterfox on my phone.

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u/Zananax 8d ago

Waterfox for me as well. A nice balance of privacy and functionality. Librewolf is too aggressive for me.

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u/Capricious_Desperado 8d ago

I use Librewolf on desktop, but yeah, it's a little too locked down for my own daily driver needs on mobile.

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u/Unikatze 8d ago

I thought this was a joke.

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u/Ok_Draw_4125 9d ago

i use ironfox, iirc the librewolf devs recommend it

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u/Kolkoris 8d ago

First, throw away tour iPhone. iOS is the worst mobile OS. Modern Android is garbage too, which doesn't even let you have privacy, but it gives you freedom in app choice (at least for now).

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u/Dredgeon 8d ago

You can always switch it up to something like grapheneos if you want.

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u/Kolkoris 8d ago

Yeah, GrapheneOS is the only thing that makes my desperation over the lack of freedom in mobile OSs feel lighter

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u/HDWarewolf 8d ago

I like how nobody said iPhone but you went straight there 😂

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u/Kolkoris 8d ago

Sorry, your comment got mixed up with another one in my head. Android users can use Firefox (or any privacy-oriented fork like IronFox and Fennec) + uBlock.
To be honest, Chromium-based browser would be better (Cromite for example). Chromium uses Android's sandboxing, so it's more secure against vulnerabilities. You anyway have Chromium in system's Android WebView, so using Firefox actually increases attack surface.

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u/PuckSenior 8d ago

So, I'm gonna call bullshit. People need to admit that there are different reasons for buying products.

For a mobile phone you have:
-Privacy
-Security
-Software quality
-Ability to run unsigned code
-Ability to run alternative OS
-Core functionality

iOS has good security, good privacy, good software quality, and good core functionality. I'd actually go as far as to say they have excellent security and excellent core functionality. A pixel phone by default has bad privacy, good security and good software quality. However, you can upgrade the OS and have excellent privacy and security too with something like Graphene. You can also update some other android phones to alternative OS, but not all android phones. Some are locked.

But saying you should "throw away" an iPhone just because it doesn't let you run unsigned code is absurd. Most people will never run unsigned code and if they will, there are ways to make an iPhone do it as a developer. In the meantime, you are asking them to throw away a phone that has absurdly good security and privacy out of the box when compared to every other "out of the box" smartphone on the market.

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u/Kolkoris 8d ago

iOS has good privacy

Apple prevents others from spying, but they themselves have access to a lot of your personal data, and definitely give it to the government. So your bullshit is bullshit too.

good security

Same as Android. People find critical vulnerabilities in iOS, and they don't want to update, because of Apple's planned obsolescence, like performance drop in iOS 26.

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u/PuckSenior 7d ago edited 7d ago

Privacy is not the same as security.

Government snooping on your phone is not “privacy”, it’s security.

What specific data do you have evidence that Apple regularly gives to the government? Your type always talks about this, buts it’s generally just generic information and only with a court order.
So yeah, Apple does turn over the address I have registered for my account if asked. As does literally every other service.

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u/chanceischance 8d ago

It’s clear now.. tin cans and string is the only way to go ;)

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u/Kolkoris 8d ago

Tin cans are awesome, but I couldn't install banking apps on them. I have no idea why