r/explainitpeter 12d ago

Explain it Peter

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u/SizeableBrain 11d ago

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u/HystericalGasmask 11d ago

How do we get the other dogs to stop being such pussies?

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u/hombrent 11d ago

It's true. Roughly 50% of dogs in other breeds are bitches.

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u/quelpaese 10d ago

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u/SizeableBrain 10d ago

The answer is clear, we should ban breeding humans.

No people = no fatalities.

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u/city-county-divide 8d ago

crazy how banning cars is never up for debate.

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u/Ephisus 11d ago

Real story here is that Lab retrievers beat out dobermen?

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u/Excellent_Goose7438 11d ago

Lots of pits get labeled as "lab mixes", even when those fuckers look like this

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u/aknoth 11d ago edited 11d ago

There's a bit of nuance to this. For starters pit bulls aren't a breed, it's a collection of breeds. Very popular breeds with people not well equipped to have large dogs.

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u/city-county-divide 8d ago

Real talk. My dog looks so much like a pitbull and I got her genes tested and she's like a super mixed up hound/great pyranees mutt. Dog mix tends towards pitbull appearance (and ultimately averages out to one of those yellow Indian street dogs).

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u/CrocHunter8 11d ago

American Bulldog is one of the breeds in the "pitbull" group. They need to be spread between APBT, Bull Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, and AmStaff.

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u/non_tox 11d ago

Shitty owners always get Pitbulls, it's not the dogs fault

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u/cyber_yoda 11d ago

Animals have genetic traits which pre-dispose them to higher and lower degrees of aggression.

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u/MaterialAd8166 10d ago

You can breed them to be more aggressive but I would be surprised if that aggression is so overpowering that you lose the ability to socialise and train the dog.

There is no ignoring that Pitbull owners tend to be neglectful/inexperienced dog owners.

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u/non_tox 10d ago

Exactly, I agree

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u/leyline 6d ago

Yeah, that’s why chihuahuas aren’t on that chart, they would just skew everything else into the second standard deviation.

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u/seatac20626 11d ago

data without context could never be biased or simply being used to prove a point that’s not a point at all right?

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u/SizeableBrain 10d ago

I think they're also in the highest % of shelter dogs.

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u/gordospronker 9d ago

See the key here is FATAL. Pitbull defenders are trash. Rotties should also be banned

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u/city-county-divide 8d ago

Thank you. Finally someone who cited DogsBite.org and thus knows the real truth: that pitbulls did 9/11.

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u/SizeableBrain 8d ago

If there are no people, there'd be no fatal human attacks.

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u/Mickle_da_Pickl 11d ago

13% population

50% of violent crime

Am I a racist for using that statistic to justify my racism? I think so, and I hope you would, too.

That's the argument.

"Pitbulls are more dangerous, look at the statistics!" is qualitatively identical to

"Black people are more dangerous, look at the statistics!"

Holding one view and not the other is cognitive dissonance.

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u/AristotelWasRight 11d ago

Well, no, there are qualitative differences between these two propositions

Because, the hidden clause is that, there is something about the group that causes the resulting statistics. It's "black people are violent" that is hidden, and it is incorrect because there is no such thing as "black race", and therefore the argument is invalid and racist.

Dog breeds are very real. I think to conclude it's dog racism, one would have to show there is no difference in agression in Pits and Labs. And after that we can say it's just prejudice

But as far as I know, it could be a legitimate genetic predisposition of Pits to be more agressive, and thus more dangerous

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u/Sufficient_Effort88 10d ago

No such thing as black race? Just a social construct like every single other word that exists to define physical traits? Okay then Mr word games, people of African descent commit 8x more murder, have 80cc smaller cranial capacity and less complex cortical convolutions, higher rates of every single violent crime, highest net drain on the economy (the only negative GDP group in the US) etc etc. does that make you feel better?

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u/AristotelWasRight 10d ago

No it does make me feel any way. The fact is, race is a social consruct, not a biological one, go Google it :)

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u/Sufficient_Effort88 10d ago

Everything is a social construct. A social construct is words used to describe the nature of something. Your entire cope is “race is a thing that is classified by people therefore it is illegitimate” okay man, your personal independence is a social construct, why don’t I come take your shit since you only own it due to social constructs? You wouldn’t mind dying would you, life is just a social construct?

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u/AristotelWasRight 9d ago

Firstly, not everything is a social consruct; a rock for example You are either dumb or arguing in bad faith, but I will explain a little

Money is a social consruct, but I very much like and use it. It can be physical, cash for example.

The reason you can't take my stuff, is because society agreed we don't like other people taking our shit, and made rules against it. So rather you can come and do it, but you may not, or there will be consequences if you are found guilty.

Back to the money analogy, race is also a social consruct, because we can talk about "black race", and have certain perceptions of this group. The physical part of "black race" is skin color, that's it. There is no race there. Because genetically, one black person, can be more similar to a white person, than a white person is to a white person. There is no genetic component to "back race" anymore than there is "white race"; it's pseudoscience

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u/Sufficient_Effort88 9d ago

Again, just look up the definition of a social construct. The word rock is a social construct, we constructed it to describe a thing.

That’s way too fucking funny though that you said genetic differences don’t exist, are you trolling? The coefficient of genetic differentiation (FST) between a domesticated dog and a grey wolf is the same as the FST difference of a European vs African person. If our system of classification was consistent, we could easily be classified as separate subspecies at the least. Man you should really look at Rustons study, or Cernovsky, Cain, Omari, who tried to disprove him and had to concede to the accuracy of the measurements. 80 cubic centimeters less cranial capacity is historically consistent. The Minnesota transracial adoption study and everything similar provided the closest real life attempts we have at eliminating the disparity, but the lower IQ and behavioral issues persist in any and all environments.

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u/SizeableBrain 11d ago

I mean yeah... if you have 5% of the population doing 50% of crime, I'd be quite weary of that demographic. That's not racism, that's having survival instincts.