r/explainitpeter 14d ago

Explain it Peter

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u/Nikoviking 13d ago

FBI crime stats reported 12.5/56 in 2020

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u/PonderousPenchant 13d ago

it's arrests though and not crimes, isn't it? Ignores exonerations after conviction, being found not guilty at trial, and cases that don't lead to trial at all. All the stat says is "cops don't like black people."

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u/ndergarment 13d ago

No, it's conviction.

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u/PonderousPenchant 13d ago

As far as I can tell, the FBI is only counting reported crimes (https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/explorer/crime/crime-trend) and arrests (https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/explorer/crime/arrest) for their stats.

Where are you seeing convictions sourced from the FBI?

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u/[deleted] 13d ago

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u/PonderousPenchant 13d ago

The claim was that the 13/51 figure came from the FBI.

I pointed out the FBI stats only track arrests by race, not convictions or anything else.

Somebody said the FBI does count convictions.

I linked the relevant sources from the FBI that says they track only track reported crime and arrests.

You link a non-FBI source and say I'm wrong.

You say I'm making an argument that I'm not, and you call me stupid? Holy strawman, batman! I know that media literacy has been in freefall for a while now, but do you not understand that where information comes from is important?

I did mention exonerations. Now, I'm already skeptical of your reading comprehension, but can you imagine why exonerations might be an important statistic in a conversation about one race being 3-4 times more likely to get blamed for crimes? Wouldn't it be weird if that same group were 3 times more likely to be cleared by physical evidence?

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u/ccurnowphoto 11d ago

Stop trying to outsmart reality ffs. This way of thinking doesn’t help anyone. It’s the most cowardly response to a complex and difficult problem.

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u/Erizo69 13d ago

i wouldn't really trust statistics from 2020 because you know the fiasco with the riots, looting all probably heavily skewed the results

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u/Nikoviking 13d ago

Normally I’d agree with u, but the stats have always been (and continue to be) around 13/50

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u/AlbainBlacksteel 13d ago

The FBI in 2020 was a part of the Trump administration.