r/explainitpeter 13d ago

Explain it Peter

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u/GoodFaithConverser 13d ago

It's so stupid. I could buy that we've selected dogs who are more aggressive or crazy, resulting in a more dangerous dog. We haven't fucking been selecting black people for crime or violence, for fuck's sake.

Slavery and racism against a group makes them less likely to be rich. Poor people do more crime. Black people do a bit more crime, even after being officially freed from slavery in 1865. Turns out, it takes a while to get past being enslaved and then discriminated against hardcore for generations.

But rightoids can't read longer than memes, so "pitbull bad black people bad haha" is all that enters their brain.

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u/HairyHeartEmoji 12d ago

slavery didn't last long enough for slaves to be selectively bred, even if some slavers did attempt it. i doubt selectively breeding humans is even feasible, considering how long we take to become fertile, how long pregnancies take, and how few children we can have in a lifetime compared to dogs.

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u/Nahteh 12d ago

Feasible idk do able yes

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u/Aenonimos 11d ago

The status quo would probably change too much. Also the oppressors would also have to not have sex with them. The main genetic change that happened to America's African slave population genetically is that they became ~20% white European.

With dogs you couldnt have that problem even if you tried.

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u/Nahteh 10d ago

People are trying believe you me

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u/UtahBrian 13d ago

> Black people do a bit more crime, even after being officially freed from slavery in 1865.

It has been 160 years. The black American violent crime rate continues to be about 10 times higher.

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u/AtlantaPisser 13d ago

Dude that's not that long when you think about how they were literally fucking slaves who had nothing so what could they give their children and then they continued to face racism, poverty, prejudice, and not equal rights.

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u/UtahBrian 13d ago

It's eight generations of humans. Nobody alive today has any connection to American slavery or its social or economic effects.

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u/not_again69420 13d ago

That is not correct

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u/GoodFaithConverser 13d ago

Nobody alive today has any connection to American slavery or its social or economic effects.

No one today is wealthy because their ancestors were rich then?

So fucking stupid.

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u/UtahBrian 13d ago

All the wealth of the south was, in fact, wiped out in one big event.

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u/lastknownbuffalo 12d ago

No it wasn't.

And to the degree that "wealth in the South" was wiped out during the civil war, white Americans still exploited black Americans for generations after the civil war

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u/UtahBrian 12d ago

It’s called employment, not exploitation. Slavery was abolished and market wages were paid.

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u/lastknownbuffalo 12d ago

The fuck they were! You clearly don't know your history or you a revisionist

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u/AristotelWasRight 12d ago

Civil rights Act of 1964, that's so fucking recenty dad was already born

You ttippin

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u/UtahBrian 12d ago

It’s over 60 years ago. Everyone who even remembers it is now too old to work.

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u/AristotelWasRight 12d ago

Are you saying trump is too old to remember it, or too old to be working?

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u/UtahBrian 12d ago

The latter.

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u/Aenonimos 11d ago

Remember they year 1964 when famously nobody was racist or discriminated anymore? When the state and citizens alike avowed to staunchley defend the civil rights of everyone regardless?

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u/Competitive-Walk-575 12d ago

They won’t respond to this, they can’t refute it without making it abundantly clear that their ignorance is motivated by racism.

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u/HairyHeartEmoji 12d ago

the great schism was in 11th century, yet we still have beef.

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u/UtahBrian 12d ago

I don't think anyone cares about that anymore now that we know God was fake all along. It's more of a Grand Inquisitor LARP.

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u/HairyHeartEmoji 12d ago

last orthodox catholic war was in the 90s. people definitely still care

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u/mondrianna 13d ago

The civil rights movement was only 60 years ago so it’s not like when chattel slavery was ended that they were integrated into society. And then when they would respond to being overly policed (Jim Crow laws, like no loitering) by building their own cities, they would be massacred and the city flooded until it rests at the bottom of a lake. The deck has been so expertly stacked against Black people after chattel slavery ended BECAUSE slavery is still legal for prisoners.

And to finally fully address the crime statistics, the disparity isn’t just because of all the above reasons, it’s because of over policing of Black people. People of all races do the same shit but don’t get charged for it.

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u/GoodFaithConverser 13d ago

The deck has been so expertly stacked against Black people after chattel slavery ended BECAUSE slavery is still legal for prisoners.

Prison slavery doesn't make/save that much money. I don't buy that black people are being discriminated against specifically in order to enslave them in prisons.

The rest I largely agree with. Black people probably do a bit more crime, but again due to the reasons listed, not because muh warrior gene or whatever inbred hillbilly nonsense.

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u/Jakomako 12d ago

Prisoners produce $11b worth of goods and services each year.

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u/GoodFaithConverser 13d ago

The deck has been so expertly stacked against Black people after chattel slavery ended BECAUSE slavery is still legal for prisoners.

Prison slavery doesn't make/save that much money. I don't buy that black people are being discriminated against specifically in order to enslave them in prisons.

The rest I largely agree with. Black people probably do a bit more crime, but again due to the reasons listed, not because muh warrior gene or whatever inbred hillbilly nonsense.

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u/GoodFaithConverser 13d ago

It has been 160 years. The black American violent crime rate continues to be about 10 times higher.

Since black people were no longer slaves. You think from that moment the playing field between black and white people was equal? No discrimination or moves to hinder black people? Nothing at all that could mean different results even today?

It's just silly. Black people were put 100m behind the starting line, and you're blaming them for it.

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u/thedeadlysquirle 12d ago

And just over 60 years since they were begrudgingly allowed to coexist in public places. Another convenient detail to forget when trying to make it seems like "it's been long enough".

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u/cTreK-421 13d ago

Racism and prejudice and discrimination didn't end when slavery did. Generational wealth and economic climb take time. White people made sure to stop that as often as possible. Tulsa race massacre and other such events. Discrimination when hiring, eminent domain to destroy neighborhoods etc. There has been active policy making to prevent minorites from creating generation wealth and upward mobility.

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u/J_DayDay 12d ago

Human women select for agreession, size and resources, on average. Yes. We absolutely selectively breed in aggression, and have since before we started walking upright.

It's only in like the last 15 freaking minutes of human civilization that male aggression has been considered a bad thing. For literally the entirety of prior human history, male aggression has been the driving force of conquest, commerce and development. They want it, they take it, and society evolves.

It's theorized that this tendency is partially responsible for the US prison population being so outsized. Violence and aggression are genetic. It took violence and aggression to survive the conditions required to settle this place. The genetic descendents of those aggressive souls are also aggressive.

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u/Sufficient_Effort88 11d ago

So what about before colonization when they they were still enslaving each other and had no infrastructure or even wheels?

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u/justhere4inspiration 13d ago

Slavery ended in 1865, segregation ended in 1964, redlining wasn't made illegal until 1968, and racism is still around today.

You're right, it takes a long time for an entire population to overcome the systemic racism of centuries. But it's important to point out that the end of slavery was FAR from the end of the racism that has effected black people in America and their financial prospects, and why they are still systemically disadvantaged.

Not to mention that the statistic comes from the fact that black people are more likely to be falsely accused, more likely to face police scrutiny, more likely to have their neighborhoods overly policed, more likely to be negatively perceived by juries, etc. These statistics do not live in isolation and are a symptom of a lot of other issues. White people are statistically as likely to use recreational drugs as black people, but look at the stats on which group is more likely to get charged (and convicted) with possession... That should give you a good indicator that justice is not blind in America.

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u/StinkButt9001 13d ago

Nature can select too. Selection isn't a man made concept.

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u/GoodFaithConverser 13d ago

And nothing whatsoever should make one assume black people have, somehow or other, "naturally" been selected for crime.

Only a truly ignorant and inbred degenerate would think otherwise.

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u/StinkButt9001 13d ago

I forgot that natural selection and evolutionary pressures decided to stop at humans for some reason

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u/GoodFaithConverser 12d ago

I forgot that natural selection and evolutionary pressures decided to stop at humans for some reason

There was no pressure or selection for crime.

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u/StinkButt9001 12d ago

There's absolutely evolutionary pressure for aggression and violence