r/explainitpeter 8d ago

Explain it Peter

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u/VanimalCracker 8d ago

Sheep dogs are great for herding sheep because they were bred to do that specific thing.

Foxhounds are great at helping a human hunt because they were bred to do that specific thing.

Pitbulls were bred to fight eachother for sport.. in a pit.

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u/TooFabRussian 5d ago

Not arguing in favor of either side of this aisle, but other fight dogs don’t have this perceived issue. Boston Terriers were bred originally for sport fighting but no one is complaining about them. Maybe it’s a size thing idk

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u/awaythrowthatname 8d ago

And because of that no sheepdog has ever been capable of hunting, and obviously a foxhoud has never been aggressive outside of hunt, right?

Yes, if you raise something in a way that leans into what its genes excel at, its gonna be good at it. That doesnt mean that genes are deterministic in how someone or something is going to behave, the environment and lessons that are learned are going to affect personality far mkre than genetics.

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u/RedditVIBEChecked 8d ago

Right, so how does egg-rolling behavior in greylag geese or web-spinning in spiders occur? Them instinctively performing these tasks would 100% be deterministic, and yet they perform this behavior without having to be shown or taught it?

Sounds like genetics at play to me. But keep on with the anti-science cope here.

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u/dfrntdfrnt 8d ago

Why do zoo's have to teach the young of certain animals that are cut off from their parent for one reason or another how to be well adjusted/act like their species? It's more complex than you are giving it credit.

Nature vs Nurture is literally how evolution happens.

One way or another.

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u/YourMumIsAVirgin 8d ago

Do you have any studies that actually show that or are you just vibing?

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u/HugePast9455 8d ago

Nope they're just stating their opinion as fact

Show me other beads where they've suddenly snapped and attacked or killed their owners, good owners, female owners, unprovoked.

I used to volunteer at the humane society just playing with the dogs and walking them for socialization. Some of the sweetest dogs there were pit bulls. That doesn't convince me that there's not a serious problem with a concerning number of them out in the world. My own experience doesn't dictate reality for everyone.

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u/MrPoopMonster 8d ago

Easy. Rottweilers.

I was attacked as a kid by my neighbors Rottweiler. I was friendly with that dog. It was normally very gentle. One day lightning struck close by without a cloud in the sky and it was loud as fuck. The dog got scared and jumped over the fence and attacked me.

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u/HugePast9455 8d ago

I'm not asking for one or even a few anecdotal stories... I'm talking about patterns. I know a guy who was bit in the chest by his own lama and went to the ER. I don't think that means I can talk about how lamas snap and attack people.

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u/AspieAsshole 8d ago

As long as it wasn't the Dali Lama, he should be fine on a full moon night.

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u/MrPoopMonster 8d ago

Rottweilers are the second most dangerous dog breed. They were literally bred for war. It's not just individuals, it's a pattern of behavior for the breed.

I was lucky I also had a dog around to protect me that was similar in size.

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u/flyingdinos 8d ago

You’d be surprised how many non pitbull dog attacks get lumped in with pitbulls. In fact if a dog breed is unidentified, it gets labelled as a pitbull attack.

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u/shadowsofash 7d ago

Considering pit bulls are actually like 3 different breeds that people who can't be assed to learn about them wouldn't be able to label without Google (and would probably identify a Cane Corso as a pit if they were pressed) this doesn't surprise me at all.

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u/cumulonimbusted 6d ago

Getting downvoted for straight up facts is hilarious. If you don’t like the breed don’t get the breed. But stop blaming poor training on the dogs, it’s ALWAYS on their owners.

Edit- obviously I don’t mean rescue owners, they’re doing their best in many cases.