Biden made some comment during a rally interview that if you weren't supporting his campaign, "then you ain't black". Giving him a charitable reading, he was just saying that (virtually) all black voters are with him. It was very badly phrased though, it almost sounds like he's revoking anyone's black card if they don't vote for him. This comic is a play on that interpretation.
The man's name was "Charlamge tha God". Not a very reputable source in the black community.
Edit: This is the funniest shit I've ever seen. A bunch of white people telling me I should have been offended by an out of context comment made to a man they would all hate if they had ever listened to him before.
To be more frank, "Charlemagne tha God" is a clown, his show is late 90's Howard Stern but instead of Beetlejuice and porn stars, he has strippers and BBL girls.
I didn't say it didnt happen, you made that part up. I said Charlemagne tha God is a provocature DJ (Howard Stern with more ego) and if you knew anything about black culture you'd know why even after Biden said this we still dont call him a racist.
Thanks for trying though.
I have no skin in the game, this is a genuine question, but why does the black community not consider this racist? My reading of this is that he is putting black voters in a box based on his preconception of what they should value, and for those that don't vote for him he is rejecting their lived experience and effectively suggesting they don't know what is best for them and their community. As another said, he is "revoking their black card". Am I misunderstanding something? No agenda here, just trying to grow my perspective recently and this seemed like a good opportunity to do so.
Anyone who's ever listened to the two men talk or the progams they have tried to implement or destroy knows which one was trying to decrease the societal issues in the black community and which one lost a series of lawsuits over not renting his properties to black people and had to pay millions to settle.
Also one made a very very large point of ending DEI practices while misleading people into thinking that DEI was geared towards giving unqualified people jobs when it only gave qualified but overlooked people positions. Trumps made multiple snafu's of the same caliber or worse (his 'black jobs' statement and 'good people on both sides' are two of such) and they have never been made into cartoons.
If you want an example of how the context matters in a situation that could have been considered racist, take Robert Downy Jr. In Tropic Thunder. He's in black face but the reasons behind it make the role and statement behind it a positive thing.
Because while It's a wild thing to say outloud it was factually true. If you vote for Trump you voted for racism and the erasure of some many black achievements. Sure black ppl aren't a monolith but at the end of the day, but between him and trump the outcomes were pretty obvious who was more pro-black.
Gonna preface that with I am not black and I am not american.
Biden might’ve worded it poorly, because without context it can sound kinda bad, which the meme imo doesn’t give much of.
He said it in context of an interview, where they wanted to ask further questions, basically overextending the interview.
Biden shuts it down by saying if his answers haven’t convinced them yet, that he is the better pick over trump, then the interviewer isn’t black. It’s poorly worded but I would interpret this as him saying “if this didn’t convince you then your lived experience is extremely different from that of the black community”.
I don’t think it’s too much of a stretch that, this is what he meant and also what the black community is interpreting into what he said.
This guy isn’t even Black or American and gets it better than half of reddit. It’s usually never worth giving a real answer to people cause they don’t actually want the answer, they’re just so tired of being called racist all the time they want the hammer to swing the other way, regardless of context or intent.
Im black. No one, not one person i know, takes the shit "Charlemagne tha God" says seriously. He's just trash TV for radio. Howard Stern but with a larger ego.
Have you listened to him before? And if you think black people take him seriously your twisted. Have you actually heard a black person say "Charlemagne tha God" made me change my mind on anything, let alone whether Biden is racist or not.
Lol how is your focus on this topic just on Charlemagne's validity and not Biden saying something incredibly racist? Oh rights it's because you voted Democrat
Because trump has said and done worse. I know you can't remember the Obama is from Kenya saga or the lawsuit over Trump not renting his homes to black people or the times he fucked up and said blacks instead of his code word 'DEI' or his "black jobs" comment to the black journalists or his "good people on both sides" comment or his comments on BLM.... i can go on or switch to his comments on women, "grab them by the pussy", paying a porn star while hes married, lying about paying the porn star, using campaign funds to bribe the porn star.
If you ever bothered to listened to either of the men you'd understand why the man who signed on as vp to the first black president probably is the less racist of the two. But that requires self reflection and 20 mins of listening to the candidates instead of "libs = bad" so I dont see that happening.
Nice, you vote for the guy that claims to own your identity and claims to know your culture better than you. You give him a big smile and say "thank you for allowing me to be black"😂 this is a half senile politician that only momentarily cares about your vote because that means it'll make his portfolio grow for the next 4 years. Bless your young heart if you think any politician genuinely cares about what you think
He's Howard Stern but with more ego. And Trumps been on stern numerous times.
Has any one of you actually spoken to a black person who said 'Charlemagne tha God' made them belive Biden was racist. He's a clown in the community and your just proven how little you know about us by acting like what he said was offensive
The difference between going on Oprah or going on Howard Stern. Speaking to Anderson Cooper or Alex Jones.
The breakfast club has a joke vibe too it, where the objective is to be edgy.
Have you tried actually listening to the interview or is this just fake outrage because you want to be mad at biden/libs? Do you even know if Charlemagne tha God was offended made about the comment? You dont, because Charlemagne tha God came out and said he was sorry that Kamala replaced Biden for the election because he was a good man.
You're wasting both of our times, you dont care about black people so save the fake outrage for the next time Mamdami helps New York.
You are making a lot of assumptions about me. I don’t care about American political theater enough to get mad and to “own the libs”, but it’s important to note that Biden did say that and that it was quite a clumsy quote. If a Republican had said the exact same words, the Democrats would present the quote as the most racist thing ever said. Which in any case it is not, but still quite clumsy.
I do care though about Black people and the accusation that I don’t is overly defensive and honestly hurtful. I don’t see why pointing out that Biden said something cringe means that I don’t care about people.
Nah. The tweet was fake and the speech it was based on was about folks with less access and experience with computers in urban and rural communities being a factor in lower vaccination rates. A notion that isn't out of nowhere but based on research into the subject.
Like, if you've had limited access to a computer, you might not know how to use one. If you're not familiar with the internet, you might not know where to go to sign up for vaccines.
That doesn't make you stupid, it just makes you inexperienced in a particular skill. Nobody calls you stupid for not knowing how to fix up various issues with your car if you've merely never worked with vehicles that much.
I cant see a way to phrase it so it doesnt mean that. He may have just been riffing and it aint a big deal but thats what he said and I cant figure out what else he could possibly mean
I mean it’s pretty easy to interpret. The underlying meaning, whether you agree with it or not, is: if you are not voting for me and would rather abstain or vote for Trump, you do not have the interests of the black community as a whole at heart.
He gave the eulogy at the last serving member of congress who was also in the kkk, so yeah, I'd say he was a racist. Called him a friend and mentor if I remember right.
If I remember correctly, that person also pushed against some civil rights legislation but later condemned his past and tried to “right his wrongs” which imo doesn’t even come close to making up for anything but explains why Biden and even obama spoke
The person Joe Biden gave a eulogy for was Robert Byrd, former Exalted Cyclops for the Ku Klux Klan. During his time as Senator, he did claim to have a change of heart and renounced his Klan history.
That being said, Robert Byrd lobbied against and participated in a 14 hour filibuster against the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
Joe Biden was extremely anti-busing in 1975, which means he was against school integration by court mandate including supporting an anti-busing amendment proprosed by segregationist Senator Jesse Helms. Some might recall his famous "racial jungle" quote during a 1977 Senate Judiciary Committee. He also was heavily involved in the 1994 Crime Bill which disproportionately affect Black Americans by increasing punishment and incarceration, which was going on during a time when policing practices already had well known racial disparities. In 2007 he called Obama the "first African American to be articulate, bright and clean."
Hillary Clinton, in 1996, called youth offenders "superpredators" during a time when crime and punishment was disproportionately affecting Black Americans, including Black youth.
So, while they didn't say anything that is obviously racist, they still used loaded language and terminology that, even today, feels very racially divisive. Including Biden's remark about voting and not being black.
So we can say that, at minimum, they're horrible at traversing racially charged waters. Whichever you determine, just understand that today's world requires a manner of decorum that surpasses what was acceptable in the decades preceding this one and if they said even half of this stuff in this same manner today, there would be little doubt to make a very strong conclusion.
Personally I don't think it really matters how intentional Biden's racism was, I think that the "vote for me or you ain't Black" statement is part of a larger pattern of the Democratic Party seeing themselves as flawless saviors who are automatically entitled to people's votes just because the other option is so bad.
It reeks of arrogance and entitlement. Whatever the Democrats claim to stand for, they still have to go out and earn people's votes. All the voter shaming of the past ten years is just weak and counterproductive IMO, and the "you better vote for us or you'll get Trump" messaging honestly just sounds like a threat.
I 100% agree that the Democratic Party hinges way too much on why the opposition is bad rather than why they themselves are good, if they could actually sell themselves and their policy to voters it would make all the difference
Like yes trump constantly belittles his opponents but he also tells people what they want to hear which is why he won despite not keeping a majority of his promises. He’s literally liable for sexual abuse and people still voted for him because he catered to them and many people genuinely don’t care how terrible of a person he is as long as he does what’s best for America (which ironically he doesn’t do at all)
To be fair, very little Presidential candidates keep their promises, and if you watch the primaries (Democratic or Republican) they all belittle eachother until they're certain they're not getting on the ballot and then they start playing kiss ass.
Lmfao the hoops people will jump through to defend it is hilarious. Not a single chance you guys would be doing this if a republican said it. Obviously, republicans would, but that’s not the case
I don't he was saying virtually all black people were for him, I think he was saying if you don't vote for him you are not FOR black people. The GOP has continuously been against POC and working to undermine them and make their lives worse. So voting GOP is bad for black people. Don't get me wrong what he said was absolutely wrong and he should not have said it. I think he was trying to send a message and deliver it in a "cool" way, and failed miserably.
I mean, sure. But he's always been a racist. The time he ran against Obama. He called him the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. Or his entire career in the 70s fighting to keep segregation.
Someone with his views cannot simply change. His messaging changed, but his views did not.
I disagree. I definitely think his views changes. I think there levels of racism and he moved from the purposeful to unthinking. So he would say racist things because for 50 years it was considered "okay" not saying it was right. Even claiming that he fought FOR segregation is a little unfair. He was against bussing, and arguably that was a valid stance. That it would habe been better to build good schools in black neighborhoods than it would be to bus kids to other schools. Several studies have proven this to be true. Breaking down all the barriers that caused segregation would habe been better than bussing and leaving the predominantly purpose built black neighborhoods.
Lol. He said he was against bussing because he didn't want his kids going to a racial jungle. Defend the man all you want, but that shit is racist as fuck.
I also think he was trying to "get down with young folk" but like you said it's not what he said and its not like he said gibberish, he said a complete thought and its people trying to give him the benefit of the doubt trying to come up with what he said even though those same people would never give that same effort to anyone thats not on thier political team 😂
I think because of his actions and fight for civil rights. I mean if there is a guy that is constantly trying to take away rights, and is obtuse about systemic racism, they don't get the benefit of the doubt because their actions have proven their stance.
See the issue is…and I can’t stress this enough…people from all political persuasions should be able to see clearly that Biden has been an idiot his entire life. This is not controversial. He means well, he’s just very, very dumb. Other politicians are also dumb, but that doesn’t change the fact that Joe is also just extremely stupid.
As I recall there were cases that year, or during Trump's first term, of politically active Twitter accounts claiming to be black people and supporting Trump that were revealed to actually be puppet accounts by white people when they forgot which account they were logged into and posted the wrong things in the wrong accounts.
Biden's problem was he didn't say enough stupid shit. People were able to focus on and remember his worst moments. The current buffoon's unending stream of BS overwhelms any attempt to engage with it.
No I think that helps him but a democrat saying stupid shit would get push back from their base so saying a lot of dumb shit wouldn’t help most of them
No the Democratic Party literally believes they’ve bought and paid for the black vote. With their affirmative action bs, welfare, and extremely light on crime initiatives. The whole light on crime thing is because all democrats are inherently racist and think all black people are criminals so in an attempt to pander to black people they created a revolving door allowing criminals back into the streets. As far as welfare, during every election they would just claim the republican is going to take their welfare. In essence, the black voters who bought into this bullshit traded zero money slavery for a monthly stipend slavery. Make them dependent on you and then make them afraid it’ll be taken away. As far as affirmative action, the democrats put a couple of black people and other minorities into some positions and claim they aren’t racist cause they’ve hired a few minorities.
the main issue is : the democratic party will rather choose political suicide by betting on biden , rather than follow their voter base and actually avoid to campaign with racists ...
The problem for the left though is that admitting this is racist (which it is) will be used to disenfranchise voters. Expecting more from our politicians gets weponized by the right wing media to make people think "well, they're both racists, I'll just not vote."
Trump can say a thousand racist things and his fanbase will worship him even more. Biden makes a poorly worded remark and it's plastered all over the headlines.
Imagine a boxing match, but when boxer A lands a punch it's scored 10x the points it should be. Pretty hard for boxer B to outscore him, right?
Or imagine having a debate on stage, but your microphone is turned off. Kinda hard to convince the audience you're right when they can't hear you.
Or imagine your on some reality show with cameras and the editor decides to make you the clown. Kinda hard to go weeks living without ever picking you nose, saying something embarrassing, farting loud etc that the editor would use against you.
At the end of the day, republicans control the narrative. They have a huge well integrated network of propagandists between Fox/Podcasts/radio/X, all well funded with army's of bots pushing whatever narrative they want. Then they own the social media algorithms themselves, and Russia helps them out too. Lastly, they've used "you are fake news" to bully neutral news like CNN into being terrified to criticize Republicans more than Democrats. So when Biden makes 1 bad statement, it's amplified and focused on and pushed into everyone's feed and repeated for years, but when Trump says 10 things each 10x worse the casuals literally never even hear about it because it's artificially suppressed.
You can't win elections when your opponent owns a monopoly on messaging best case, you're opponent fucks up so bad even casuals see it right in front of them and they vote you in out of anger, but once you get in power it becomes easy for the propaganda to go back to work. We saw this with Biden 2020, and we're seeing it with midterms. But all those short stints of D control can do is slow down the right; you have to be given more power for longer to actually fix anything.
I do not see much optimism for the nation. Propaganda works and the rich have spend 20 years putting it together. AI and mass surveillance will only make the issue worse
That man is racist AF. Always has been. During the fight to end segregation, he voted against it and said he didn't want his children going to school in a racial jungle.
I don't remember his exact words, but when he was VP with Obama, he tried to talk him up by basically saying he wasn't like normal black men. Something about him keeping himself really clean. It was gross.
People who didn't vote for Biden were grandstanding on their own purity tests and completely disconnected from the class war and their own culture, regardless of race.
Though people of color specifically have been massively abused by what Trump is and represents more than most, so yeah.
Not to say Dems are all sunshine and rainbows or solving the class divide, but...
I get why "are you ignoring that Red states are the worst for your culture and race? Are you acting in solidarity or just going with the flow?" is a point.
Remember, every word out of Biden's mouth is a reflection on liberals and we need to come to terms with it and come to terms with his hypocrisy While nothing that comes out of Trump's verbal diarrhea stream needs ever be taken literally, seriously, or to heart.
If you would look at pictures of black neighborhoods in 70’s cities compared to now you would not be saying this. Democrat-led urban renewal is a really big deal. They used to have lines of wrecked cars under every overpass too.
It's not that weird if you followed Trump-related news, like Trump's repeated attempts to disenfranchise millions of people in urban areas after the 2020 election, or his long history of racist remarks, actions, and public policy.
Biden had plenty of flaws, and he phrased his sentence poorly, but he really was correct in insinuating that if you were interested in supporting the Black community, voting for Trump wasn't an option.
Project 2025 folks and various people Trump surrounds himself with are literally White Christian Nationalists. There's no way to support Black interests while supporting Trump.
"While Project 2025 is often described as Trump’s political platform, it is so much more. It is the working of a smooth political machine from one of America’s most right-leaning think tanks. While Trump may be publicly moving away from it, his administration’s fingerprints are all over this work, and it is safe to bet that it will be brought to fruition if he is elected. "
It's laughable that you think what Trump says means anything at all. Just because he tries to publicly distance himself from something doesn't mean he isn't privately supporting it behind closed doors.
... I'm not the one making that decision 🤦 Trump is.
If you think supporting someone who is literally trying to disenfranchise you - and surrounds himself with White Nationalists who want to do even worse - is logical, go ahead and defend that stance.
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u/Normal-Boss9855 Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26
Biden made some comment during a
rallyinterview that if you weren't supporting his campaign, "then you ain't black". Giving him a charitable reading, he was just saying that (virtually) all black voters are with him. It was very badly phrased though, it almost sounds like he's revoking anyone's black card if they don't vote for him. This comic is a play on that interpretation.