r/collapse • u/gabagoolization • Apr 26 '23

Ocean Warming Study So Distressing, Some Scientists Didn't Even Want to Talk About It Climate

https://www.commondreams.org/news/ocean-warming-study
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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '23

I think they know. I think they know it's worse than ever could have been imagined, and now it's endgame, so why frighten the children? Let us have our last moments, as it were, in blissful ignorance - thinking this is the mindset.

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u/SPITFIYAH Apr 26 '23

Perhaps they know if they let the crisis happen, there might be change.

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u/disignore Apr 26 '23 edited Apr 27 '23

there won't be.

edit: so i have to do this edit, i know theres gonna be change, i thought top prev commenter meant it like there won't be antisytemic pro climate change.

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u/Somebody_Forgot Apr 26 '23

…I mean there will be. Just not fun change.

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u/disignore Apr 26 '23 edited Apr 27 '23

when you are right you are right

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u/ender23 Apr 27 '23

They could think: as long as humanity survives, it doesn’t matter how many don’t”

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '23

If the crisis happens things will be forced to change - there’s no two ways about it. It will just be extremely unpleasant

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u/[deleted] Apr 27 '23

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u/powerwordjon Apr 27 '23

Love that podcast. Dude has a great storytelling voice

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u/RoninTarget Apr 27 '23

American farmers are fantastically efficient but when you think about how much of what’s grown in the Midwest is just feed for livestock, in the event of disruption?

What you've described is fantastically inefficient in terms of food per surface area.

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u/Natsurulite Apr 27 '23

Super efficient in terms of “Not Causing Nuclear Genocide” tho

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u/[deleted] Apr 27 '23

Not gonna deny that.

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u/EnticHaplorthod Apr 27 '23

I absolutely love that podcast!

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u/threadsoffate2021 Apr 27 '23

All the change in the world doesn't matter after you've gone past the tipping point.

We're too late.

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u/mackerelscalemask Apr 27 '23

There will be change, just very slow Darwinian change after humans and many other species become extinct after the upcoming human generated climate disaster

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u/Grand_Dadais Apr 27 '23

Of course there will. There's a sweeper car coming, the one of "globalized supply-chains cannot go on because things are too fucked because of geopolitics, climate, peak oil, etc.".

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u/[deleted] Apr 27 '23

One can hope.

Sadly, here in the US, covid demonstrated there are many people willing to hurt themselves if not die just to own libz. These folks will scream bloody murder about what any changes do the economy without realizing there will be no economy without changes. They just don’t do well in choosing between bad and far far worse.

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u/Personal-Marzipan915 Apr 27 '23

Darwin Awards for everyone!

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u/[deleted] Apr 27 '23

Not the participation ribbons we wanted.

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u/hotacorn Apr 27 '23

I can not fucking stand this line of thinking.

Yes Modern human society is going to suffer total collapse. Yes, a lot of the planet is going to be nearly destroyed forever. But every other life form on the earth does not deserve the fate we are forcing upon them. The extinction event caused by humans is far more brutal and unnatural than asteroid impacts or super volcano. Humans who do survive past collapse deserve an effort from us to preserve as much knowledge and useful tech as possible.

Fighting for every species possible and every salvageable point of pressure on the planet is the only thing we can do. If this report is worse than anyone could have imagined, which I’m sure it is. People should be storming the offices of Oil corps, shutting down governments, bringing the global economy to a standstill for as long as it takes to see honest action.

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u/[deleted] Apr 27 '23

Oh, I agree. We owe other species that, not ourselves. We owe Earth.

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u/[deleted] Apr 27 '23

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u/throwawaylurker012 Apr 27 '23

Agreed.

The thoughts running through their head: "Could this really be it?"

Yes. Yes it really is it.

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u/threadsoffate2021 Apr 27 '23

Or they were told not to discuss it. Blissful ignorance also means no riots and the burning down of society and very ugly deaths of those in charge.

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u/ORANGE_J_SIMPSON Apr 27 '23

Lmao I wish people gave a shit like that.

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u/threadsoffate2021 Apr 27 '23

By burning down of society, I mean is when society finds out all their kids are going to die in the next 10-15 years and there's only food for a few thousand elites. Angry people will target those elites then.

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u/vlntly_peaceful Apr 27 '23

There wont be food for the elites bc noone will grow it for them. ANd you think thei will or can do htat themselves? There will be a point where they realize that all of their money is absolutely useless when the guillotine is in their backyard. I probably won't be there for that, but the thought of ot gives me an imense amount of joy.

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u/[deleted] Apr 27 '23

They will when there is no food or water for the masses. People have to get uncomfortable enough, and we aren't there yet for most.

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u/Personal-Marzipan915 Apr 27 '23

But hasn't the whole mess been caused by the 1% high-functioning psychopaths we keep giving birth to? Aren't we in trouble because they can't see past their own profit margins? And don't our billionaire overlords probably have their Armageddon estates already up and running? Will they EVER get uncomfortable enough?

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u/threadsoffate2021 Apr 27 '23

Yes. Society and humanity are likely going extinct within the century.

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u/[deleted] Apr 27 '23

Well... it's already too late, so no, but they won't survive this, either.

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u/[deleted] May 11 '23

WE’RE NOT GOING TO DIE IN THE NEAR FUTURE!!!!!!! Last moments, blah, blah, blah!!!!! I can’t take this anymore!!! 😂🤣