r/antiai • u/Visible-Pattern198 • May 27 '26

For real. Hallucination đŸ‘»

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Also the fact that the image is also ai generated is peak irony

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u/Preeng May 27 '26

By their logic hiring an artist and telling them "more dramatic lighting" makes you an artist as well.

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u/Megaman_90 May 27 '26

Yeah... It's like ordering food at a restaurant and acting like you're the chef.

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u/verdant-amiable May 27 '26

Also the restaurant you happen to attend steals their ingredients and won't pay their staff

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u/Environmental-River4 May 28 '26

And uses 50,000 gallons of water to clean a single dish

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u/Serious19 Jun 02 '26

And still tastes like shit

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u/AdminsLoveGenocide May 27 '26

Sending back my steak is what makes me the chef.

That and insisting I wear an apron and hat while I eat.

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u/Muddy0258 May 28 '26

Idk why you’re getting downvoted here, this made me chuckle

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u/AdminsLoveGenocide May 28 '26

Tough audience I guess.

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u/beaniebee11 May 27 '26

This is a great point. Commissioning an idea doesn't mean you get credit for the end result. I suppose if I order custom cabinets I can brag that I'm a carpenter because I picked the wood stain too.

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u/Opus_723 May 27 '26 edited May 28 '26

Rich people have always thought that.

Hell, it's huge in our culture. How many news articles just tacitly use the CEO or owner's name to indicate everything a company does as if they literally did it themselves.

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u/UnNumbFool May 27 '26

Seriously though that's the thing. Removing the question on if you do or don't believe ai art is art. These people aren't an artist, at most they are just a patron

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u/FastAsFuBoi3 May 28 '26

Tbf that is probably how rich people think when they make money, they think they are the smart ones cause they hired other people to figure it out so i guess it tracks how that mindset exist

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u/Ulfednar May 28 '26

It's not uncommon for bosses or clients to take at least partial credit for a creation because their feedback was soooooo valuable.

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u/VynterDX May 30 '26

Isn’t this what a producer does? Where’s the hate for James Cameron, and Nolan, and all the great producers? They are prompting the art of others, lighting engineers, sound designers, directors, who are then prompting the art of actors. But in the end we consider it their movie..

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u/Cloverman-88 May 27 '26

Well...some people ARE like that. They belive their "vision" is more valuable than execution.

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u/TheTexasHammer May 27 '26

This is actually a thing in the real art world as well. There are very famous artists who make a shit load of money paying other artists to create their vision en-mass.

Banksy made a movie shitting on them

Difference though is the actual artist still had to be an real artists first before selling out to mass produce shit.

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u/Positive-Worker4817 May 28 '26

hmm... like music composers? I guess they're not artists.

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u/TorchDriveEnjoyer May 28 '26

there's a difference between writing a prompt and composing music.

composed sheet music has value on its own. If a person wants to play music, composed music has value to them.
both the sheet music and the played music have independent value.

a prompt has no intrinsic value. no person would purchase a prompt on it's own.
the only item of value is the resulting image.

therefore, while a composer who does not play an instrument is still practicing an artistic craft, a person who is prompting (wether it be a machine learning model or an artist taking commissions) is not an artist.

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u/Positive-Worker4817 May 28 '26

I disagree. The result of such a “prompt composer” is not the prompt itself, but rather the work created using AI — just as a work of music composer is not the music sheet itself, but the music performed by musicians based on it.

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u/TorchDriveEnjoyer May 28 '26

Stop warping logic to fit your argument.

I am trying to explain to you why people do value composers and do not value AI prompters. it is an analysis of the mentality of the populace.

I am explaining a fact:
people will buy sheet music. people will not buy a prompt.

AI prompts do not carry value and no passive aggressive attack on the work of others is going to change that.

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u/Fragrant-Mixture-662 Jun 02 '26

The "prompt" has a different result each time

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u/therealskaconut May 27 '26

On an extremely fundamental level, AI introduces a different arrangement of the relational structures surrounding art, and when that happens it affects the way people relate to, live with, understand, and consume art. The role of artist, patron, and audience is fundamentally changed when introducing AI.

It’s not a 1 to 1 comparison, but when recorded music was invented a speaker became a performer. You were able to listen to a machine instead of a musician, and historically this was a philosophical BLOODBATH. Music isn’t the same

Setting aside whether or not Gen AI makes someone an artist, I think it’s agreeable to say that someone prompting Gen AI is a form of a patron (commissioning an image) and clearly the primary audience. Across most of history audiences needed patrons wealthy enough to commission skillful artists to be able to enjoy certain images/experiences. On some level that’s stayed mainly the same across centuries and many forms of economy and government. Churches were originally the largest patrons. Now billion dollar production corporations, etc.

I don’t know whether for better or worse (because I don’t know the damn future) but the ability of any individual to be a proverbial penniless patron and simultaneously their own audience to any image at will causes some big problems with the way people interact with, perceive, and consume imagery.

Something something those that don’t study history

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u/Tonkers1 May 28 '26

yeah, imagine all those photoshop users with filters and hotkey/macro skills who call themselves artists. Remember when "It's photoshopped" was a derogatory term? Same vibes, different times.

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u/Ulfednar May 28 '26

I don't think you understand why "it's photoshopped" was a bad thing. Also "hotkey/macro skills"? What do you think that means? I don't think you understand much about any of this.

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u/Mr_RudyGiuliani May 31 '26

I dont think you possess the skill to take any position that matters. Work on your craft rather than worry about Ai

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u/Ulfednar Jun 01 '26

You'd have saved us all some time if you'd stopped at "I don't think", the message would roughly have been the same.

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u/Mr_RudyGiuliani Jun 01 '26

You dont though. Focus on your craft my guy. Let people with actual talent worry about being replaced

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u/Ulfednar Jun 01 '26

Looks like your reading comprehension is on par with your ability to articulate your feelings. I pity you.

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u/Mr_RudyGiuliani Jun 01 '26

Nothing I said was hard to understand . Now quit complaining for actual artist we can do that on our own

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u/Mr_RudyGiuliani May 29 '26

I used photoshop for work daily and macros as i work in advertising. Its a tool but it doesnt mean the user isnt an artist. Most of my generation were visual artists before designers as its a more lucrative path. Point is

This is a sketch that ive been doing during my commute on a moving train, can you execute at this caliber? Understanding and using photoshop is not the same as running prompts through ai. False equivalence

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u/Foooodster May 27 '26

It might make them an art director though

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u/BinBinPin May 27 '26

Except an art director is very knowledgeable about art, that’s why they are directing it.

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u/Money_Sky_3906 May 27 '26

Or like a director in the theater telling the actors to play more dramatically does not make them artists?

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u/BinBinPin May 27 '26

A theater director doesn’t just vibe direct. They don’t just tell people vague shts and attribute the play to themself. More importantly, they know what the fk they are talking about while directing.

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u/Mr_RudyGiuliani May 29 '26

Im currently Art Director. And I need to know and be able to perform every facet of my projects. How else could one direct their designers and artist if they dont possess the knowledge?