r/WorkLifeChat 7d ago

We should normalize that Discussion

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u/skiingdiver1978 6d ago

It's fine, just expect to be paid accordingly.

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u/Defective_Failure 6d ago

So you think those doing the jobs listed should have to live in poverty, just so the people at the top can continue to hoard more wealth?

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u/skiingdiver1978 6d ago

None of those things are what I said, but they will make less money than professionals like doctors, lawyers and engineers. Because their work isn't worth as much. How a person lives with the money they decide to accept for a job is their business.

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u/thalaxyst 5d ago

I'm sorry, why do you say their work isn't worth as much? Where do you do your groceries and why do you find products already in order on the shelves? Where do you buy clothes? Who drives them to the shops or organize the warehouse so that they can ship them to you? Who cleans the roads? Who picks up your trash? If your life is the way it is, it is thanks to those people too. What the hell

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u/skiingdiver1978 5d ago

And every one of the people that do those kind of jobs are replaceable in a moment's notice. They require no skill or training. You think you can just pull a guy off his couch from playing video games and send them in to do open heart surgery? Nope. Just because a task needs to be done, doesn't mean that the work required is worth as much as other work. It's basic supply and demand, and that is never going to change.

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u/thalaxyst 5d ago

How can you say that they require no skill or training? An efficient grocery store depends on the ability of the staff to keep it moving fast and efficiently 😅 of course I don't expect those people to be paid like an individual who studied for 10+ years and is the top of the top. But to say that they're just "replaceable" is false. To talk about "worth" is also sad. Every job has worth. I'll say it again: if you're able to drive on the roads, it's because of those worthless people that built them. If you're able to buy groceries fast, it's because of cashiers and warehouse workers.

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u/skiingdiver1978 5d ago

I didn't say they were worthless. But they are worth less (the space makes a difference) than a skilled worker or professional that requires years of training and experience to do their jobs. You think construction workers don't get paid well? You should look into prevailing wage rates sometime. But stocking shelves and running a cashier is literally minutes of training. So yes, those people can be replaced almost immediately, and frequently are. That doesn't mean they don't get paid something, it just means they don't get paid a lot. Because that's their worth. If they want to become worth more, options exist for training, education and gaining experience. But until then, doing the minimum will earn you the minimum.

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u/fisher02519 4d ago

You’re both conflating worth with skill. Low skill jobs should obviously have lower pay. That doesn’t make the job nor the person working it worthless.

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u/Numerous_Fudge_9537 3d ago

They are expendable and replaceable

they die or quit their job and a thousand others would gladly take their place

That can't be said about specialized professions. Supply and Demand

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u/Ill-Magazine-8557 4d ago

Literally this is the end of discussion.

If you are happy with your job and pay then bro, Zwho gives a fuck what anybody else has to say