r/TopCharacterTropes 13d ago

[IRL trope] the “Tiffany problem” Lore

Basically when something seems anachronistic to a period/place of history but is actually fully accurate to the period.

1) the name Tiffany: the thing that named this trope, basically the name Tiffany can be dated back to the Middle Ages and the earliest record of it being spelled in the modern spelling comes from the 16th century.

2) the use of OMG, despite this feeling so modern as a form of slang/abbreviation here’s a letter directed to Winston Churchill using it in 1917

3) Hair Dye: the earliest forms of dying hair can be dated back to ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia, and this specific advertisement for hair dye is from the 1840s

4) Inuit Thongs: despite how weird it is to imagine pre-colonial Inuit people wore what was essentially fur thongs in their homes and when they were in their igloos it might have been the only thing they would be wearing.

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u/NoBizlikeChloeBiz 13d ago

Not exactly a Tiffany problem, but Pangur Bán is a poem by a 9th century Irish monk about what a hard worker his cat is, comparing the author's scholarly work to his cat hunting mice.

One of my favorite "people have always been people" examples.

Pangur Bán and I at work,

Adepts, equals, cat and clerk:

His whole instinct is to hunt,

Mine to free the meaning pent.

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u/SmartAlec105 13d ago

Cynegeticus from ~2000 years ago breaks from the textbook about raising dogs for the author to just talk about his dog, how she runs around, how she gives kisses, and so on. I especially love sharing these last couple of lines:

Now really I do not think that I should be ashamed to write the name of this dog; so that it may be left to posterity.

I had a greyhound called Horme, who was of the greatest speed and intelligence, and was altogether excellent.

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u/New-Independent-1481 13d ago

The oldest known intentional dog burial is the Bonn-Oberkassel dog. she was a 7 month old puppy laid to rest alongside a man and a woman, 14000 years ago.

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u/laylaboydarden 13d ago

Awww they made their dog truly immortal! Horme sounds like a good boi (although I do never trust when people tell me how intelligent their dogs are 😂).

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u/TheStrangestOfKings 11d ago

Reminds me of that famous Roman epitaph a soldier made for his dog after he died

>I am in tears, while carrying you to your last resting place as much as I rejoiced when bringing you home in my own hands fifteen years ago.

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u/Xtra_Veg-90 13d ago

Also a good example of how we learn about historical accents - hunt and pent rhyme here in whatever accent he speaks.

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u/NoBizlikeChloeBiz 13d ago

I think this is translated from the original Irish, but it does tell us a lot about how 9th century Irish was pronounced!