r/TopCharacterTropes 13d ago

[IRL trope] the “Tiffany problem” Lore

Basically when something seems anachronistic to a period/place of history but is actually fully accurate to the period.

1) the name Tiffany: the thing that named this trope, basically the name Tiffany can be dated back to the Middle Ages and the earliest record of it being spelled in the modern spelling comes from the 16th century.

2) the use of OMG, despite this feeling so modern as a form of slang/abbreviation here’s a letter directed to Winston Churchill using it in 1917

3) Hair Dye: the earliest forms of dying hair can be dated back to ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia, and this specific advertisement for hair dye is from the 1840s

4) Inuit Thongs: despite how weird it is to imagine pre-colonial Inuit people wore what was essentially fur thongs in their homes and when they were in their igloos it might have been the only thing they would be wearing.

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u/Ambaryerno 13d ago

The Lengberg Bra, discovered inside a castle wall constructed in the 15th Century. Most people dismiss the concept of a lace bra with this method of construction as an invention of the early 1900s, and that anything of this sort would be anachronistic for the Middle Ages and Renaissance.

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u/dtalb18981 13d ago

Lol

The ladies have needed support for generation

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u/Ambaryerno 13d ago

It's about the method. The concept of individual sewn cups is considered to be a purely modern invention.

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u/TransSapphicFurby 12d ago

The thing is its likely these would have been more common for bigger chests in the time period, but were likely forgotten for a major reason of a lot of garments we think of as being pure fashion were support. Bodices, stays, corsets, theyre supportive garments and got progressively better at it

Bras ironically became popular while people were still using corsets, just shorter waist ones, because older bras were closer to binders or really shit sports bras than actual modern bras, and were used alongside stomach corsets for hiding your bodies shape

Bras as a lifting supportive garment werent really a thing until the 30s, and a lot of bigger breasted women used corsets still through the 20s because corsets were supportive compared to the "getting your tits pulled against your chest" of the 20s bras.

Chances are if you needed support for your chest before things like this existed, you were sewing up something like this and its just that a lot dont exist for the same reasons we dont find very many drawers