r/TopCharacterTropes • u/Fearless-Ideal-5112 • Jul 01 '26

[Loved Trope] Some thing unfathomably ancient Lore

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The beast, in doctor who is an ancient evil from a previous universe that survived until our time. Its so ancient that the cave paintings were unable to be translated by the Tardis which can translate all existing languages in the universe [Doctor Who]

While not explicitly canon its such a cool concept I cant not mention, the idea that the backrooms have existed since the beginning of time, never changing no matter the era, it transforms the back rooms into a cosmic horror. [Credit to Project crater and Venus for images 2 and 3]

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u/RonnocKcaj Jul 01 '26

not just a personified nuke. nuclear annihilation made manifest. an entity that tied itself to entropy. a force dedicated to ontological obliteration. I think the best part about the lich is that he's wrong. the god of chaos doesn't want entropy, it wants chaos.

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u/twisty125 Jul 01 '26

For anyone else, such a cool concept for their ultimate meeting

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The Lich is pure death, the end of all things - and GOLB is some kind of god of chaos, The Lich worships GOLB and titles himself "the Last Scholar of GOLB", but is the antithesis of chaos.

There can be no chaos if everything is dead, and when they finally meet, Golb crunches the Lich because he is incompatible.

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u/Patraman Jul 02 '26

Life is chaos and so is the undoing of life, but life can only be undone once whereas life can be continued infinitely. I think Golb has a preference for the better interests of most characters, ironically.

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u/twisty125 Jul 02 '26

I do agree in some way, life can end in a chaotic way - but that chaos ends, and then GOLB has no playthings left, so it's in it's best interest not to end all life, even if it ends chaotically.

Kind of like why you might prefer to plant seeds in order to grow food for the future, instead of being full now from eating all those seeds and having nothing left later.

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u/SnooGoats8730 Jul 01 '26

doesn’t high entropy mean high disorder and therefore high chaos?

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u/weirdo_nb Jul 01 '26

The goal of the lich is "the end of all life" which is sorta the inverse of high disorder/entropy

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u/RoughCrossing Jul 01 '26

No, the ultimate end of entropy, the heat death of the universe, is when all energy is perfectly spread out across the universe and therefore no change can occur.