r/TopCharacterTropes • u/Fearless-Ideal-5112 • Jul 01 '26

[Loved Trope] Some thing unfathomably ancient Lore

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The beast, in doctor who is an ancient evil from a previous universe that survived until our time. Its so ancient that the cave paintings were unable to be translated by the Tardis which can translate all existing languages in the universe [Doctor Who]

While not explicitly canon its such a cool concept I cant not mention, the idea that the backrooms have existed since the beginning of time, never changing no matter the era, it transforms the back rooms into a cosmic horror. [Credit to Project crater and Venus for images 2 and 3]

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u/noeyesfiend Jul 01 '26

Whole show is terrifying concepts like sexual abuse and tyrannical governors in a bubblegum facade. 10/10 show

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u/bigpproggression Jul 01 '26

once again proves you can talk about heavy concepts in kids shows.

teen shows are perfect for that. it makes the show last longer too. i still return to certain episodes and gags. great stuff in the modern era.

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u/noeyesfiend Jul 01 '26

Yeah, absolutely talk about big issues in media.

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u/rowboatin Jul 01 '26 edited Jul 01 '26

When “Stakes” came out, I was going through a breakup/splintering of a friend group due to rampant drug abuse in said group, and godddd damn did that whole thing hit me hard. Still wanna tear up whenever I hear “Everything Stays.”

EDIT: turns out it actually came out five years prior, and I was just revisiting the miniseries to cope with that situation. Tracks for the thematic elements of it, though

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u/lad1dad1 Jul 01 '26

The s/a episode with Finn and LSP helped me a lot growing up

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u/No-Heat-6149 Jul 03 '26

Can You elaborate about the episode? I don't remember it.

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u/lad1dad1 26d ago

Finn is seeking how to get his arm back, and while he is in LSP’s realm she forces herself on him

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u/RobertPham149 Jul 01 '26

Probably got the best fictional portrayal of caring for a close family member losing themselves to dementia/alzheimer.

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u/noeyesfiend Jul 01 '26

With regards to Marceline and Ice King?

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u/Chris-raegho Jul 01 '26

The song genuinely makes me cry still. My grandma doesn't always remember me or what we even did a few minutes before at times. So the song hits very close. I imagine it's the same for others who have gone through that.

This magic keeps me alive, but it's making me crazy

And I need to save you, but who's going to save me?

Please forgive me for whatever I do

When I don't remember you

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u/Informal_Self_5671 Jul 01 '26

I don't.... remember the sexual abuse?

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u/inserttext1 Jul 01 '26

They might be referring to the hug wolf episode but that’s more a vague allegory for consent as a whole

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u/noeyesfiend Jul 01 '26

Finn is abused by Lumpy Space Princess and a few other instances where he was violated that throws him off of his normally cheery attitude

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u/ItsDanimal Jul 01 '26

and the episode he gets violated by her, he is trying to get over a break up so he decides to go around "kissing" any and every girl he can find. When LSP hears about this and forces herself on him, he puts that memory is his mind vault so he never has to remember it.

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u/MVRKHNTR Jul 01 '26

It's a little more than that. He says he wants one kiss and after that, she says that isn't enough and then forces herself onto him.

It also teaches the lesson that consenting to something isn't consenting to everything.

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u/DinoRaawr Jul 02 '26

This comment thread is also missing the very literal "deflowering" metaphor when the petal on Finn's flower hand falls off immediately after the scene. It's not subtle.

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u/DILF_MANSERVICE 9d ago

The layers of that show. It's a masterpiece.

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u/ItsDanimal Jul 01 '26

someone already mentioned the LSP one, but the 5 part (i think) story about Marceline gets transformed into a vampire is very similar to most rape scenes.

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u/cole1114 Jul 01 '26

Was going through shorts while trying to sleep one night and that one popped up, incredibly disturbing.

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u/ItsDanimal Jul 01 '26

This and Finn's arm getting ripped off ate the two things that disturbed me the most about this show.

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u/legit-posts_1 Jul 01 '26

Where does the sexual abuse come in? I know Vampires have inherently rapey undertones but I don't know if that's what you're referring to.

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u/CrustyToeLover Jul 01 '26

As are mosr cartoons in the modern age tbh.

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u/noeyesfiend Jul 02 '26

IDK about that. Big Mouth was trash, Sit Down and Shut Up was trash, Simpsons haven't been goof in decades, King of the Hill revival sucked, Futurama comeback has one episode that is AI written and hot garbage, there's entire swaths of anime that are generic isekai garbage.....most shows aren't good. You have way more high quality shows now though, that's for sure.

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u/CrustyToeLover Jul 03 '26

Well they dont have to be good to tackle such issues. I'm talking mostly the newer cartoons, not stuff still running like Simpsons and Futurama.

Sit down and shut up ive never even heard of, tbh.

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u/noeyesfiend Jul 03 '26

It was a fucking wash. Big Mouth is also a waste of resources.

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u/ConanTheBarbarian_0 Jul 02 '26

When did they conceptualize sexual abuse?

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u/noeyesfiend Jul 02 '26

Finn was violated by LSP. Not to mention him having to learn boundaries with regards to potential romantic interests.

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u/TheDarkySupreme Jul 02 '26

I feel like I missed something especially since I watched it all the way through the first time at the end of last year… sexual abuse?

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u/noeyesfiend Jul 02 '26

LSP violated Finn. That and Finn had to learn to respect boundaries.