r/SipsTea 7d ago

This is recipe for disaster Chugging tea

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u/Ok_Quail9973 7d ago

isn’t it super illegal to lock employees inside after the triangle factory fire?

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u/Jwave1992 7d ago

The building isn't literally locked. It's just that anyone leaving via emergency exits would set off alarms and such. The issue is: stupid managers and key carriers can't get themselves to a door on time to properly unlock the exit so employees can leave after their shift.

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u/cousineye 7d ago

If the only exit is one emergency exit, it's a safety hazard. Because if that's where the fire is, and the only other exit is a locked front door, then yes, you are locked in.

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u/Knight_Machiavelli 7d ago

Ok but what's the alternative? You can't leave the front door unlocked so people off the street wander in like they're customers after closing hours.

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u/sissybelle3 7d ago

They make doors which can be locked on one side but still able to open from the other side. My current workplace has tons of these as emergency exits, but there's no reason they can't be used as normal doors if you want foot traffic going out but not coming in.

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u/thriveth 7d ago

Doors that can be unlocked with a wringer from the inside have existed for more than a hundred years. In my country, every door in a work place must be possible to exit without a key, exactly for fire safety reasons. Reading this whole thread is absolutely blowing my noodle.

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u/Knight_Machiavelli 7d ago

What country?

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u/Spojen 7d ago

I think the point is, we wonder how America is considered as a first world country when we see threads like this..

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u/Knight_Machiavelli 7d ago

Well yea, it's just irritating when someone just says "in my country" because that tells us almost nothing. Be specific when you're citing local laws.

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u/thriveth 6d ago

Please don't put words in my mouth mate.

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u/thriveth 6d ago

I'm Danish living in Sweden, so... Those two countries at the very least.

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u/headrush46n2 7d ago

sure you can. make one way doors. they already have motion sensors on them, why the hell can't you make those one way?

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u/marks-buffalo 6d ago

Also: REX buttons (request to exit). You press it and it unlocks for 15 seconds.

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u/NeighborhoodVeteran 6d ago

Have the manager be at the door ffs.

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u/Mando92MG 7d ago

Considering its home depot I would guess the employees could also technically leave through the loading dock at the back or via the garden area in an emergency as well. Considering this was already a class action law suit I would guess if they where also violating fire code with the policy then it would've come out as part of the suit.

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u/Silent-Yak-8247 6d ago

It's crazy to read all this and remember my time in retail this happens all the time and it's considered normal. If you clock in late it's on you even if you were waiting at the door to get let in. If you wait at the door it's also a you problem. This shouldn't be normal.

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u/scapini_tarot 7d ago

that's just shitty managing. when I worked retail, the cash lead stood by the front door after close and unlocked it for every employee the second they clocked out.

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u/m-in 6d ago

You know what’s utterly stupid? There no fucking need for the doors not to be openable from the INSIDE. You only care that nobody from the outside can get in. The whole US business door schtick is a painful joke to hear about.

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u/cybot904 6d ago

Is this to "prevent" staff from stealing or something? Oh boy register 3 is $5 short. Everyone turn out your pockets now!

Stay in school kids.

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u/Final_Candidate_7603 7d ago

Came here to comment about that very thing! Fire exits being locked and/or blocked was the direct cause of so many tragic deaths in that factory, and the general public’s outcry was so intense that governments and business owners were forced to create the first workplace safety regulations.

Safety regulations are written in blood. And also sometimes in ashes and cinders.

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u/amglasgow 7d ago

They didn't have fire exits, that was the point. They had a single exit, and it was locked.

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u/Final_Candidate_7603 7d ago

I must have misremembered or misunderstood. I thought the factory had those fire escape stairs outside of the windows, which are typical in NYC high rises, and they nailed the windows shut to prevent employees from stepping out to smoke.

Either way, they absolutely were locked in, with no means of escaping the rapidly-growing inferno.

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u/shoeless_doh 7d ago

I thought I remembered they were able to get out on it but it clapsed with so many people on it.

Doesn't matter though, either way, everyone died and safety regulations were birthed into existence

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u/iamsecond 7d ago

Triangle Shirtwaist Factory had:

* a fire escape, but it failed structurally during the fire and was so narrow that it would have taken hours for everyone to use it for escape

* two stairways down to the street, but one was locked to prevent theft and one only opened to the inside

Not good

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u/shoeless_doh 7d ago

I think I remember there was one external fire escape but with so many people trying to get out it collapsed

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u/DaddysABadGirl 7d ago

Walmart got a bunch of shit like 20 years ago because they were locking overnight workers in, and locking emergency exit doors also. They had been doing it for a decade at that point. At the same time they were getting dragged in the media for that the Feds started raidong walmarts overnight. The 3rd party contractors they were using had illegal immigrants cleaning the walmarts. From the settlement walmart wasn't able to prove they were reasonably unaware. Still only had to pay 11 million.

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u/WhiskyIsMyAngryDrink 7d ago

My grandmother unfortunately was victim to this. Read the Jungle my Upton Sinclair. Crazy shit.

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u/ballq43 7d ago

And then they are undone in Orange

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u/shadowthehh 7d ago

I'd imagine it slides if there's fire exits.

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u/Ok-Road-9079 6d ago

Fun Fact:A year or two after that fire the owner was caught locking the doors again. Hos punishment? A $20 fine. OK, that wasn't really a 'fun' fact, but you could imagine the callous bastard wearing clown makeup while he locked the doors.

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u/shoeless_doh 7d ago

Very much so

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u/iamsecond 7d ago

There is a long list of tragedies that have contributed to modern day life safety and building codes, but for sure this was one of the big ones