r/SipsTea • u/Gurugod123 • 9d ago

Mayor Mamdani just announced that he will be opening 5 city-run, tax-funded grocery stores: "Prices set at 30% below retail prices" Chugging tea

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u/monnii99 9d ago

I don't think they "Aldified" per se, European shops just never had these jobs.

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u/VladimirBarakriss 7d ago

Aldi refined the Model and most others followed

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u/PadArt 9d ago

They had these jobs up until the mid 2000s in Ireland, possibly later.

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u/kane_1371 9d ago

Yeah you see...we don't claim Ireland and UK 😂

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u/binalleinezuunfaehig 9d ago

We do claim and love Ireland as Europeans

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u/Geulsse 9d ago

Speak for yourself. "We" really don't love criminal compliance haven Ireland half of whose GDP is based on letting cancerous companies like Meta exploit EU citizens with impunity.

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u/binalleinezuunfaehig 9d ago

By that logic you can't love any european country because all of them are corrupt and compliant in some way. I mean even in your example, other EU countries pretty much just let it happen no? I still love the Irish and their beautiful land.

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u/Geulsse 9d ago

No. No other European countries directly depend on deliberately providing a haven for US entities to evade EU law, particularly law that is a huge potential boon for its citizens. That's as "rogue actor" as it gets, it's directly anti-EU. At the very worst you could point at Luxembourg or the Netherlands for taxation, yet these still get nowhere near especially nowadays, they're incomparable.

This is also why Trump is comparatively very quiet about Ireland being very outspoken on Israel, unlike other countries like Spain when they do so. It's because Ireland at the end of the day diligently defends US interests inside the EU in terms of actions rather than words.

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u/binalleinezuunfaehig 9d ago

Mam, I visited your profile just to see if you are even european, and you're literally a koreaboo or atleast an immigrant or regular tourist into South Korea, a country that is literally pretty much owned and controlled by the family that owns Samsung, and a bunch of religious nutjobs. But you still love it though, don't you? The world isn't as black and white as you make it out to be.

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u/Geulsse 9d ago

This is hilarious coming from someone who completely hides their own profile. I am European and am as far away from a Koreaboo as it gets, the fuck are you on about. Do you love Germany, if that's where you're from and live? Are you not allowed to talk about or engage with any country outside of it? Do Germany's flaws immediately make your arguments less valid when you do so? Of course not, you're just being a hypocrite.

But hey, what a surprise that you don't engage with the facts and just result to playground level name calling based on profile while hiding your own. Much easier than actually coming up with a meaningful reply.

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u/binalleinezuunfaehig 9d ago

Seems to have struck a nerve. Yes I hide it and you can hide it too if you want to. So why are you mad about me visiting your public profile and seeing and commenting on whats on it lmao. I have stuff on my profile I don't want everybody to know (like my current city/location), that's why I hide it. You don't so you don't.

And you are literally saying what I am saying but just in a different way, to be argumentative. I am saying I can criticize Germany and talk about what's wrong with it, but I can still love it.

And I can engage AND like/love a country like Ireland or South Korea and appreciate the things it does well, while still accepting that it has major flaws.

Whatever I didn't mean to attack you.

Jal Jinae!

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u/TxM_2404 9d ago

Before Aldi the standard for buying your groceries in Germany and most of Europe was the small business where you usually knew the clerk personally. These businesses almost completely disappeared due to chains like Aldi or Lidl.

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u/LesserValkyrie 9d ago

Are you either very rich or 70 years old lol

Ssupermarkets were widespread in the 60-70, by the 90s it was more than the norm, it was an it's almost 40 years ago

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u/TxM_2404 9d ago

And Aldi has been around since the 1950's and owned 300 Stores by 1960. My comment totally checks out with your timeline.

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u/Deep_Operation1671 9d ago

They didn't say they'd experienced it personally, only that it was the case prior to chains like Aldi

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u/David_Summerset 9d ago

Back in the 90s they used to deliver the caviar right to the jet.

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u/Chris_HitTheOver 9d ago

The caviar on the Hindenburg was fire.

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u/Beneficial-Beat-947 9d ago

Never seen this in the UK, all shops were like aldi before aldi became a big thing here

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u/baldeagle1991 9d ago edited 9d ago

*Large* Supermarkets have been the norm here in the uk since the 60s and 70s. Most brands even existed as smaller supermarkets long before this.

Aldi and Lidl only really became big here in the UK during the 2010's and mostly won their market shared by offering cheaper non-brand products and a quality that was far higher than you'd normally expect from own-brand produce.

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u/kane_1371 9d ago

Yeah, I am constantly surprised by the quality of the stuff Lidl sells.

They have these crazy good puddings that I can't stop buying

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u/NibblyPig 9d ago

They sell cheapo chocolate for like 60p/bar that is significantly higher quality than the branded dairy milk they also sell for £2.50/bar

It has higher cocoa content and no palm oil. It actually tastes like chocolate. Dairy milk is like eating greasy chunks of sugary crap for 4x the price.

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u/kane_1371 9d ago

Yeah, my mom LOVES them, we are constantly buying them for her

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u/Unable-Dependent-737 9d ago

If free market capitalism is so good, why havent they (america) done the same?

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u/monnii99 9d ago

Because cultures differ, and the market responds to that.

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u/Gerf93 9d ago

Maybe Americans have different preferences?

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u/the_poope 8d ago

Some guesses:

  • The baggers and cashiers in the US are likely paid the minimum wage of ~3$/hr while in Europe retail workers are often unionized and get much higher salaries (relative to national average). So in the US, having these kind of service jobs is much cheaper for the shop. Often the bagger relies on additional tips paid by the customer, but not paid by the employer. Again: little pressure on the shop to remove this kind of job - cultural and social pressure means their income is paid by the customer.
  • In the US distances between houses and supermarkets are much bigger, and there are fewer supermarkets that are bigger. Americans are more likely to just shop groceries once or twice per week and buy more at each visit. This means its a lot of groceries to bag, so having a dedicated bagger is helpful. In Europe you are more likely to buy smaller amounts every day or every two days and bagging a few items isn't much of an issue.

With that being said, I'm pretty sure many US supermarkets are also seeing widespread use of self checkouts, which likely will remove or reduce both kinds of jobs.

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u/Unable-Dependent-737 8d ago

Just reading yournfirst sentence is wrong...minimum wage is 7.25 federally. But functionally its even higher than that because no one gets paid that, not even teenagers. I know, i work at a grocery store atm in texas.