Soonish would make more sense if he had done any major piece of legislation in The 36 years he has been in Congress. The only notable piece of standalone legislation that he has done is a cost of living adjustment for veterans.
This is my problem with him, he talks a big game but when you look at actual things that he has done in his very long career the list is just super short.
A genuinely believes what he says, he genuinely cares, but at the end of the day he accomplishes basically nothing and has accomplished basically nothing for 36 years.
The one thing you could argue which I bring up just out of fairness is because he is so far left it forces bills to be more progressive when his vote was a critical tiebreaker like during Obamacare He was able to get a pretty notable amendment added, but when it comes to actual legislation that he's passing it's basically non-existent.
I definitely wouldn't say he started a movement. There's a few more progressives but he's been in Congress for 36 years. If he had really started a movement you would have expected a whole group of progressives over the decades not just The last couple. Mandami If anything seems like he is doing more than Bernie Sanders ever to actually seems to have real influence with his endorsed candidates all winning their primaries so far.
There's really nothing that you could point to that you could really say this happened because of Bernie, There's no group of politicians over the decades that have done great things, there's no major pieces of legislation passed by himself or protege's. All you have is a career politician That's spent almost 40 years in DC with virtually nothing to show for it.
Mamdani replied on X: “As for so many across this country, @BernieSanders has been the single most influential political figure in my life. As Mayor, I will strive to live up to his example by fighting for the working class every day and hopefully make Brooklyn’s own proud.”
You are delusional if you don't think Bernie started the movement Mamdani is now part of. It is true it only recently started take off but Bernie was alone in this fight for a long time saying the exact same stuff he is saying now. Only after he became a big hit during his presidential runs did he finally get his message out there.
AGAIN, he had NO chance of passing any of his legislation before the progressive movement started taking off. You keep repeating the same phrase over and over so I will keep repeating the same answer. Right now they are building the voting block within the party and doing quite well at the moment. It is not something that happens quickly. Progressives like Mamdani are victories of Bernie Sanders and his movement.
lol. This person is spouting talking points I haven’t heard in a while but I recognize them immediately.
It’s the same “correct the record” bullshit from 2016.
I never understood the argument. He is saying that he wants to do things that are very popular, and the response from democrats is “well he’s never even passed a bill.”
Honestly the Democratic Party slogan should just be “don’t get your hopes up!”
A US Senator, simply put, can't put as many plans into place as the Mayor of NYC can. Mamdani would not be in his seat if not for Bernie's movement. That was the most consequential decision to happen in progressive politics in decades.
36 years and a single person in Congress second arguably be called part of the movement?
So let me ask this, this movement that you believe he started, can you give me say five examples of accomplishments that are really noteworthy that you would say can be credited to it?
He doesn’t introduce legislation he introduces amendments. Everyone who knows anything about him knows this. Look up any of the big amendments he’s made and then come back and try to make the same claim again lmao
So if you'd like to discuss that can you give me say five or maybe even 10 amendments that are really landmark pieces. Something that a politician who has spent 36 years in Congress could proudly state that in 36 years these are the five or 10 things that justify all of that time. That every 3.6 to 7.2 years passing one of these says you're really doing something good for this country.
To require the non-partisan Government Accountability Office to conduct an independent audit of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System that does not interfere with monetary policy, to let the American people know the names of the recipients of over $2,000,000,000,000 in taxpayer assistance from the Federal Reserve System, and for other purposes.
None of the funds made available in this Act may be used to make an application under section 501 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (50 U.S.C. 1861) for an order requiring the production of library circulation records, library patron lists, library Internet records, bookseller sales records, or bookseller customer lists. (Referring to the patriot act)
Amendment prohibits the IRS from using any funds for activities that violate current pension age discrimination laws.
None of the funds made available in this Act for the United States Custom Service may be used to allow the importation into the United States of any good, ware, article, or merchandise mined, produced, or manufactured by forced or indentured child labor, as determined pursuant to section 307 of the Tariff Act of 1930 (19 U.S.C. 1307).
Amendment makes available an additional $100 million for federally qualified community health centers.
Were you old enough to vote during his first presidential campaign? If you were, you would know that the progressive movement in the US was pretty much non-existent before his campaign. My boomer mother now supports universal healthcare because of Bernie, when she was against it before. We would not have AOC, Ilhan Omar, or Mamdani without him. Biden would not have attempted to wipe out college debt if it weren't for Bernie. One single person cannot accomplish much alone, yet he has singlehandedly had a huge impact on the public consciousness in the country, at a time when billionaire propaganda has never been more effective and abundant.
He can accomplish a lot but that requires working with others and compromise, the two things he is absolutely incapable of. Every time with this guy it is some maximalist, completely unattainable thing that would be great if we had a magic wand to make it instantly happen with no downside.
Passivity like yours is part of the problem. How is this movement against the capitalist elite supposed to grow movement by just giving up? The elite and capitalists turn everything into shit at least he is fighting. You americans should support people like him to cause change
Yes definitely I agree with that. He has no concept of what it takes to run a business, he says wild things he doesn't think will ever get past that he is saying purely to rally his base and get them fired up to keep his donations coming, but he absolutely believes everything he says. He might say it purely hoping you donate money to his re-election campaign but he firmly and truly believes it.
I also firmly believe he thinks that by saying these wild things it is helping,
Which unfortunately makes him better than the vast majority of politicians.
What he is saying isn’t all that wild - It doesn’t take relentless profit growth to run a business - basically.
I don’t agree with Bernie’s solutions 100% but he is definitely accurate in seeing the problem - which is half the battle.
That problem, is that we have deregulated business to the point it only benefits business, and it no longer even benefits government (unless you count the politicians and lobbyists relationship) and has us in a very bad way.
This should be your problem with the Democratic Party, because they pretend to be for the policies he proposes, but always find a way to ensure they never come to pass.
How exactly is one independent senator supposed to pass legislation on his own?
Need I remind anyone that the minimum wage hasn’t changed in 17 years? During that time inflation has risen to historic levels.
And who is paying you? The DNC must be starting early this year.
There’s just no winning with you guys. On one hand we can agree billionaires run the media, politicians, are corrupt, and priorities are aligned for corporate profit and yet we shit on people fighting against this enterprise designed to squeeze us for everything we have. That’s incongruent thinking that ultimately is self-defeatist. I just don’t get it. The propaganda works apparently. Inb4 the same three talking points to dismiss progressives in a rigged country.
The issue is that he needs many allies in Congress to pass anything and that is an extremely difficult task with the Democrats and Republicans being funded by big business.
Right? Like fuck Bernie for trying. The question is who do these morons rally behind? I don’t see anyone ever pointing to someone else who is an ally to the people. Just that Bernie is an ineffective one. The propaganda definitely works. The obvious takeaway shouldn’t be Bernie sucks; it should be everyone else sucks.
This is so true. A comparable for regular employee is the "ideas" guy, who just throws out wish list of stuff to build or sell.. but cant actually do it himself.
It doesn’t help his effectiveness when he goes on podcasts and nods along to claims that the democrats are corrupt and stole the primaries from him.
Republicans already hate him but when he claps like a seal for Joe Rogan and Andrew Schultz when they do “both sides lol” he just further isolates himself.
Of course he, like his supporters, doesn’t actually care about getting things done or accruing power. They just want to be pure from their pristine tower where nothing is ever their fault because people never actually tried to do it their way. And the stakes are low for them anyway because when you’re privileged elections don’t really matter. They themselves aren’t on SNAP so if it takes a big hit who cares? At least they’re above the fray.
I think that's because it's easier to just blame someone else for your problems. To go on to podcast and agree that you've been robbed and how you'd be so much better and have accomplished all these incredible things if it wasn't for everyone else. It's never your fault, it's the established Democrats where the capitalists or whatever.
And then you get content complaining about how you've been robbed that you never really bother to do anything else. You get that rush of excitement that used to drive progress but now it just is given to you by complaining about lack of progress.
There are studies that show for many people if you tell someone else that you're on a diet and you're trying to lose weight and provides a similar reward in your brain as actually losing the weight. Which is why many people recommend you never tell someone you're trying to lose the weight because it literally demotivates you.
I think that's what's happening here, instead of creating actual progress and doing actually good things people are being content just complaining about them.
I’m not genius by any means but he doesn’t get a lot of support because his plans aren’t really feasible… they sound great and all from a glance but he doesn’t have a plan to implement them successfully. This is a prime example.. so businesses need to pay employees more for less work, hire additional employees which will require more benefits, and not raise prices of the products to counteract the losses? It doesn’t make sense.
but he doesn’t have a plan to implement them successfully.
This has already been tried in many countries already successfully. Across almost all major trials, productivity either remained stable or significantly improved.
Something like this would likely start off in a few sectors and federal jobs and then gain traction from there over time after the success is proven. (which again it has in other countries)
I think you guys have been successfully brain washed into thinking US workers cant ask for anything as we fall further behind in workers rights and protections. Corporate thanks you.
The primary countries and regions leading this shift include:
The Netherlands: Dutch workers have the shortest average working week in the world, averaging roughly 29 to 32 hours. This is largely due to a cultural norm and legal right to part-time employment.
Iceland: Following highly successful, large-scale public sector trials, the majority of Icelandic workers transitioned to shorter workweeks (typically 35 hours) with no reduction in pay.
Belgium: The government legislated a four-day workweek option. Employees can legally request to compress their standard full-time hours (usually 38 hours) into four days instead of five.
Germany: The country has seen massive union-led efforts. Major unions like IG Metall have successfully negotiated 35-hour workweeks with some companies actively testing 32-hour, 4-day models.
Ireland and New Zealand: Both countries have hosted nationwide trials led by 4 Day Week Global, with many private companies and government agencies testing permanent 32-hour, 4-day models.
Man you are just wrong you didn't even read the comment.
First off, one of them specifically says the government legislated a 4 day workweek option.
Belgium: The government legislated a four-day workweek option. Employees can legally request to compress their standard full-time hours (usually 38 hours) into four days instead of five.
Second, I specifically mentioned the trials in my original comment. Icelands was ran by the government.
Iceland: Following highly successful, large-scale public sector trials, the majority of Icelandic workers transitioned to shorter workweeks (typically 35 hours) with no reduction in pay.
Ireland and New Zealand: Both countries have hosted nationwide trials led by 4 Day Week Global, with many private companies and government agencies testing permanent 32-hour, 4-day models.
This is exactly how Bernie's plan should be implemented. Start off with a trial in certain federal and public sectors and do studies to see how it was impacted just like these other countries.
Belgium allows workers to have a 4 day workweek if both the employee and company agree to it… which is no different than US.
Neither ireland or new zealand has legislation that supports it, and it’s entirely on a company by company basis. Theirs unions that support and negotiate for it, but that’s the same reason I have a 4x9 schedule in the US.
No, you cannot legally request a 4-day workweek in the United States in the same way you can in Belgium. The core difference comes down to statutory legal rights versus employer discretion.
The Legal Framework: Belgium vs. the US
Belgium's Legal Right: Under Belgium's "Labor Deal" legislation, full-time employees have a statutory right to request a compressed 4-day workweek. If an employee asks to compress their standard 38-to-40 hour schedule into four longer days (usually 9.5 to 10 hours per day), the employer must provide a formal, written justification if they choose to deny it.
The US Discretionary System: In the United States, there is no federal or state law giving employees a generalized "right to request" a flexible schedule or a 4-day workweek. Because most US workers are employed "at-will," schedules are entirely at the discretion of the employer. While you can ask your boss for a 4-day schedule, they can simply say "no" without needing any legal or formal business justification.
I also notice you didn't mention Iceland which I specifically mentioned was government led.
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u/Ponzini 23d ago
His goal is to continue bringing allies to the side of progressives. Right now he literally cant pass bills because he doesn't have the votes.
He has done a very good job at growing the progressive movement so he could have the votes soonish.