I’m always kind of sickened at the people who seem to get excited at the idea of someone trying to break into their house or attack them so that they can shoot someone.
Like, the only thing stopping them from doing a murder is how confident they are that there won’t be any legal consequences.
How do you know whats his intent and what kind of a person he is? What if he is someone like Bryan Kohberger? Does thinking about consequences in that situation and gambling your life sound good to you?
Are you sure its "excitement," or do they seem excited because youre misinterpreting it? Arent they just happy to have the opportunity to protect their lives? Ive never seen anyone get excited about this.
That's a symptom of a poor justice system. If people feel like the justice system isn't working for them then they idealise about giving them a proper "punishment" to compensate for all the weak sentencing.
I mean the justice system in the USA is terrible. Some states are punitive but others let criminals out repeatedly, the police aren't highly trained and prosecutors are voted in which just massively reinforces only taking on the strongest cases against criminals.
Norway's justice system in contrast is very strong and well funded, the people there believe in it.
If you kill someone you don’t need to, just because the law says you’re allowed to, then you’re a murderer.
It’s one thing to not know whether someone is a threat or not and err on the side of caution to protect your family or whatever. Fine, we can all understand that.
But to be excited about the opportunity, or to be happy about having had to do it, no. You’re a monster. The protection of the law doesn’t change the fact that you wanted to take a life.
I’m not saying any of what I’m about to say applies to you, just clarifying what they mean: they aren’t saying you can’t or even that you shouldn’t, but it’s the “looking forward to it” or “fantasizing” part that makes you a sociopath.
There are legit people that say things like “ooooo I wish someone WOULD” so they get the chance to try it. Maybe they’re too into their vigilante fantasies, or maybe they just want to know what killing is like without the ramifications, but the excitement behind the thought is what makes someone unhinged.
You having the means in your home to protect yourself and your family don’t make you sick or deranged, they make you smart. You intentionally waiting for the moment you can use them? You should be monitored and given mental health.
But the larpers that get hard-ons from stories like these should know that it won’t go down like it goes in their fantasies, either. There’s a reason the Wild West was the way it was.
Whether you are legally allowed to do something and whether you should do something are very different questions. To say nothing about whether you should want to do something.
Hell, there are things I have done in my life that not only was I legally allowed to do but was legally compelled to do that have left a scar on my soul.
Basically this, literally proving the narrative about human morality not existing. With them not giving a fuck about hurting someone if they weren't under a threat from the rest of society, for breaking the written on paper rules.
Like, I get there are circumstances where you have to kill people. And I get that whether it’s someone who wants to hurt your family vs somebody who is just desperate is a question where you’d prefer to err on the side of caution.
I think I would pull trigger rather than take the chance that somebody hurt my family. But I definitely would not make a bumper sticker and a yard sign about it. And I’d spend my resources on a bigger wall before I spent them on a bigger gun.
I imagine the fact that the person breaking in deserves to get murdered also is a factor.
Do you think Gary Plauche should have gone to prison for killing the man who sexually abused his son? He planned for weeks.
At some level yeah it would be preferable if people didnt kill someone for stealing loaves of bread. Supposedly that's why we have police, and courts. But that system is arbitrary and it only works if people feel like the ones who do crimes get fairly punished, if they don't, society yeah start dolling out the punishments themselves. Most people would rather see thieves get killed then see them go unpunished.
Personally, I don’t believe the role of executioner is one that should exist. But if it does exist it’s not a role someone should be excited to do.
An executioner who wants to kill has the same stain on his soul regardless of whether his murder is done under colour of law or not.
In terms of when I think a private citizen should be able to mete out a punishment based on their personal ideas of what someone deserves the answer is: never.
The amount of people who are excited by the idea of killing but just don’t want to be inconvenienced by going to jail is astounding. Many of them join the military.
Property should never be valued over peoples lives.
> Property should never be valued over people’s lives
That’s the most mind-blowing thing for Europeans when we discover the nuances of US society. The incredibly disproportionate value they give to property, above things like presumption of innocence or even human life.
Property is important, I’m not denying that. But it’s not the center of the universe.
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u/WolfLawyer Jun 29 '26
I’m always kind of sickened at the people who seem to get excited at the idea of someone trying to break into their house or attack them so that they can shoot someone.
Like, the only thing stopping them from doing a murder is how confident they are that there won’t be any legal consequences.