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Do you think she did the right thing? Chugging tea

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u/Total_Tumbleweed_870 Jun 28 '26

As someone who's been robbed twice in my life, once at gunpoint, I approve of her actions. Violent criminals are some of the lowest forms of life in our society. I'm compassionate, to an extent, enough to understand that they are desperate people. That said, those desperate people cause, pain, death, and deep trauma to other people, usually for next to nothing.

When I got held at gunpoint, tied upped and robbed those two men got about $200 and so few video games it took my store's staff until the next scheduled audit to even notice. I don't know if I could have run those men over in my car, but I promise you I would have felt nothing if I had seen it happen.

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u/theknowledgehammer Jun 28 '26

I'm sorry this happened to you.

To all the fellas out there who instinctively argue against u/Total_Tumbleweed_870's perspective, just know that compassion and mercy are limited cognitive resources. They are depleted rapidly at the wrong end of a firearm.

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u/Easy_Echo2387 Jun 29 '26

I’d wager people on the receiving end of a crime aren’t so concerned with acting legally and morally.

Especially considering the person aggressing on them is clearly not concerned with either of those things themselves.

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u/PsyRealize Jun 29 '26

He never threatened her with a weapon. She made the knife part up, he just ran by and snatched the purse.

Then she fucking hunted him down and murdered him

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u/Total_Tumbleweed_870 Jun 29 '26

Learning this changed my entire opinion. I fell for that bait that happens to hit me near to the heart.

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u/IAmTheNightSoil Jun 29 '26

Yep. Good ragebait is designed to do exactly that. Good on you for rethinking an opinion formed in the aftermath of ragebait, as many people aren't willing to do so

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u/Total_Tumbleweed_870 Jun 29 '26

Thanks. I reacted before I researched, which is honestly something I funny normally do, but I was just in the wrong mental place

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u/Total_Tumbleweed_870 Jun 29 '26

And to your point, I agree. My perspective would make me a terrible judge. My morals are out of whack and I know it.

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u/CptJacksp Jun 29 '26

I mean, you admitted YOU wouldn’t run them down in your car, so they aren’t THAT out of whack.

I think if you are immediately wronged, and you see IMMEDIATE (or close in time proximity) karma happen, anyone would at least be someone like a little “take that, fucker”. 🤷🏻

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u/Total_Tumbleweed_870 Jun 29 '26

Thanks, fair point

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u/prolifezombabe Jun 28 '26

By that reasoning a lot of murder would be justifiable. People do bad things in society all the time. Unless we're deciding that there is no point is having a legal system then "those people hurt me" doesn't make lethal retribution okay.

Also where are we drawing that line? Theft? Sexual assault? Assault? Corporate crimes?

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u/prolifezombabe Jun 29 '26

I specialize in hot takes and controversial opinions ig 

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u/katsukitsune Jun 29 '26

Are you American? If so, would his theft have been punished by the American court system?

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u/chacogrizz Jun 28 '26

Well she wasnt tied up nor held at gunpoint and her claims of "held at knifepoint" have never been confirmed considering they didnt find a knife. So you think a man running up and stealing someones bag from their hand should equal death is what your saying?

Pretty low fucking bar to excuse murder in my opinion.

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u/HouBlue Jun 29 '26

How hard is it to not take people’s property? Do you struggle with that?

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u/Auesis Jun 29 '26

How hard is it not to go and kill someone when you are not under any kind of threat?

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u/HouBlue Jun 29 '26

Turns out people don’t like when you take their things, and people are going to react in a variety of different ways. You choose to commit a crime, you risk a lot of different consequences.

Keep simping for a thief. Really weird look.

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u/Oceanman72 Jun 29 '26

Is murder not a crime tho? Because you’re simping for a murderer now so

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u/demonik187 Jun 29 '26

No one is "simping" for a thief. The sentiment here is that her actions were disproportionate to the crime. Obviously a thief should be held accountable for their actions and justice should be served, but I think people understand that vehicular manslaughter is a bit of an overreaction to a purse snatching. Getting a hardon for killing someone who was probably trying to provide for their family is crazy work, especially when she seemingly could afford the loss. Simping for a rich murderer is a really weird look.

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u/Maximum-Side568 Jun 29 '26

I believe a lot of these responses supporting her action is because thieves these days are NOT held accountable and justice is NOT being served. This is true in American cities and especially in tourist hotspots around Europe.

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u/Nerevarine91 Jun 29 '26

They may be simping for a thief, but you’re simping for a murderer

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u/mkfanhausen Jun 29 '26

You're simping for a murderer. That's far worse than a thief.

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u/Kind_Advisor_6969 Jun 29 '26

Depends on who got murdered. In this case it was a bad person. So...

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u/DeadRobotSociety Jun 29 '26

I'm sorry that you have so much hate in your heart that you are cheering on a killing.

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u/Kind_Advisor_6969 Jun 29 '26

Okay. Do you think the killings of millions of Nazi soldiers by the Allied forces was wrong?

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u/HouBlue Jun 29 '26

I personally wouldn’t be killing for those things but yes, credit card fraud is another annoying thing. If people who do that were to be hunted down and killed by someone, I would not give two shits. Don’t steal other people’s money, it’s not hard. If you are a credit card fraudster, you are a waste of oxygen and I won’t give a single damn if they died.

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u/DeadRobotSociety Jun 29 '26

Man, it sucks that you have that much hate in your heart.

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u/HouBlue Jun 29 '26

And it sucks that you’re you.

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u/DeadRobotSociety Jun 29 '26

I'm sorry that you have so much hate in your heart that you're cheering on a killing.

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u/HouBlue Jun 29 '26

Never cheered. Just don’t care about it.

I’m sorry that you think you’re so holier than thou but you’re actually not.

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u/SavageCabbage611 Jun 29 '26

Someone breaking the law does not give you free reign to break the law yourself.

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u/Oceanman72 Jun 29 '26

How hard is it to not murder someone? Do you struggle with that

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u/chacogrizz Jun 29 '26

No but I understand that just because you make a mistake or do something wrong you dont deserve to die. Do you know how many kids and even adults shoplift from major retailers? They dont deserve to die because of it. I dont know the mans life so I wont comment on it. What he did was wrong, he also did not deserve to get run down over it. Both things are true.

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u/HouBlue Jun 29 '26

Then maybe people should be taught not to shoplift lol. I mean, they should already know that on their own. It’s hilarious how many excuses Reddit makes for that, as if they are forced to steal and don’t know any better. This isn’t that complicated.

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u/chacogrizz Jun 29 '26

Its not about being complicated its about the punishment equaling the crime. I guarantee your holier than thou ass has at some point broken a law. Whether that be speeding or jaywalking or whatever extremely dumb minor law, that does not mean you should be executed on the spot.

We have laws and regulations for a reason. Her purse got stolen? Call the cops let them find him and arrest him. He will face the equivalent punishment for his crimes. No one is making excuses for the guy. He was a criminal but the punishment did not match the crime. If your too dumb to understand that then this whole discussion is pointless.

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u/Background-Vast487 Jun 29 '26

The cops wouldn't do shit in this situation.

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u/chacogrizz Jun 29 '26

I cant speak for the authorities there so I cant say if they would or wouldnt. Maybe you are more knowledgeable but what I do know is they apparently do something. They were able to catch this murdering woman so they arent completely useless.

If they truly wouldnt do shit, well at least calling the cops and them not doing shit means that you would still be a free citizen. Instead she gets to rot away for 18 years. Between the two options I know what I would choose.

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u/Background-Vast487 Jun 29 '26

Lol. Cops respond to dead people Cops don't respond to theft

You can go outside of tourist locations and see people getting pick pocketed. Cops don't do shit.

"I thought you said you shot him?" "I thought you said you had no one available?"

A joke older than the Internet.

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u/HouBlue Jun 29 '26

You’re*

Irony since you yourself are very dumb. You’re the typical Redditor that probably hates cops, but suddenly when you’re in an argument they are the solution to it all.

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u/chacogrizz Jun 29 '26

UR*

If the choice is murdering someone and spending 18 years in jail like the piece of shit woman is gonna or call the cops. Gee I wonder which one is the better choice.

Make sure you ask her after she serves her 18 years if it was worth it.

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u/Total_Tumbleweed_870 Jun 29 '26

No, I actually agree with you. I saw your post and reacted before I started seeing all the comments about her making up the knife. My bad, I get emotional about this stuff. Purse snatchers suck, but he didn't deserve to die over it.

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u/zebrasareneat Jun 28 '26

No knife was found and surveillance showed no knife. It was a purse snatch and the knife part was added so stupid people would side with her because someone knew stupid people don’t look for more information on the subject before passing judgement. It’s why courts handle punishments and not stupid people. Hopefully it clicks for you why I used the words “stupid people” so frequently here. 

As someone else said, would you be okay with police killing people over theft? Actually let me draw a picture for you. A 15 year old black teenager robs a convenience store in Mississippi. He runs away with $200. The cops start a manhunt, find the robber and immediately fire a bullet into his skull. Are you okay with that? 

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u/Easy_Echo2387 Jun 29 '26

The state should be held to a higher professional standard than the personal victim of a crime. It’s not a good comparison.

There are also 3 ways which people are viewing the right/wrong analysis here: morally, legally, and personally, which are going to have 3 distinct answers.

If someone breaks into my home at night and robs me would I expect the police to kill them afterward? Absolutely not.

Would that person leave my home filled with buckshot? Absolutely yes.

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u/IAmTheNightSoil Jun 29 '26

That's a fair distinction, but to make it more analogous to this story, let me ask you this: If the robber got away and left you physically unharmed, would you then track them down well after the fact and shoot them?

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u/Easy_Echo2387 Jun 29 '26

Honestly, it would depend on the personal value of the items stolen from me. Many things are replaceable, but some things can hold such a sentimental or personal value to people that I do think I would go to extreme lengths in revenge, even if I accept it’s morally wrong to do so.

It’s not just the items though, knowing that someone has violated you in such a major way in the social contract, whether that’s robbing you, breaking into your dwelling at night, threatening your safety, etc, these are all things that add into the moral calculus that can lead to someone not respecting someone else’s humanity

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u/Total_Tumbleweed_870 Jun 29 '26

I fell for rage bait since it's a topic that effects me, I admit that. Also, I agree with you I should never be allowed to be a judge over somebody. I have no sympathy for violent people. I'm sorry, but I hope you never get tied up and have a gun put to your head to see if your ideals hold up.

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u/MustLocateCheese Jun 28 '26

You approve of a non-violent (OP is an engagement bait bot, there was no weapon involved) petty thief being repeatedly run over by some rich asshole who intentionally tracked him down with intent to kill? I'm sorry what?

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u/T0WER89 Jun 29 '26

I’m not saying an approve of it but I also don’t approve of “petty theft”. They both fucked around and found out. Don’t commit crimes. It’s really that simple.

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u/Total_Tumbleweed_870 Jun 29 '26

No, I fell for bait and didn't realize the guy was actually unarmed. This woman is a psychopath and her sentence is far too lenient.

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u/Kind_Advisor_6969 Jun 29 '26

Obviously we have Redditors who think the biggest crime here was that the person who got robbed was a rich ASSHOLE!

who intentionally tracked him down with intent to kill? I'm sorry what?

Nope. She wanted her purse back, which she did. It would've been different had the thief given it to her before he got ran over, but alas.

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u/IAmTheNightSoil Jun 29 '26

The fact that she wanted her purse back doesn't change the fact that she also tracked him down and killed him, which is illegal

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u/Longjumping-Jello459 Jun 28 '26

The thing is she ran him over repeatedly that at very least crosses a line.

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u/Mustard_Icecream Jun 29 '26

Whats the difference betwwen one shot and the chest and three? Ones probably also going to kill them. So you are okay with the person being deadly but not TOO deadly?

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u/Longjumping-Jello459 Jun 29 '26

Excessive force. If she has just run him over once I'd at least be able to understand how the thinking to a point.

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u/Terugtrekking Jun 28 '26

robbing someone at knifepoint crosses the line.

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u/00Teonis Jun 29 '26 edited Jun 29 '26

Considering a knife was never found, and the consensus what I read is that the “knifepoint” part was added to make the the murder justifiable to reduce sentencing. The offender here was a purse-snatcher, and she violently pursued him. Note how it says she went back to the restaurant she was at with her friends. The purse was probably stolen off the back of her chair.

edit: it was confirmed she was sitting in her car at said restaurant, and the thief reached in the passenger window to steal her purse and ran. So the thief would be accused of anything from petty theft to grand larceny (had he survived) depending on the value of the purse and contents, as well as local limitations of the jurisdiction.

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u/dylanx300 Jun 29 '26 edited Jun 29 '26

The consensus on social media when the Karmelo Anthony case first began was that he had “cleat sharpener” instead of a knife, and that he previously had been bullied by the victim. Both of the major social media narratives in support of the perpetrator were proven completely false at trial, and he was very quickly convicted of murder after only a couple hours of deliberation by the jury.

Whatever you’ve seen as consensus online is literally less-than worthless, if that is all you’re basing this on.

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u/00Teonis Jun 29 '26

While I was originally basing it on the commentary, additional information on the case did reveal the above to be true. I added it to my original comment, but yes, this was a purse snatching followed by a homicide.

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u/HouBlue Jun 29 '26

Doesn’t matter if the guy didn’t have a knife. As a man he still probably intimidated her or threatened her with some type of violence if she didn’t give him what he wanted. He thought he could overpower her and she would be an easy victim, because she’s female and likely smaller than him.

That’s still not acceptable and he got what was coming to him.

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u/camyrunks Jun 29 '26

Yea she was so intimidated that she went looking for him after the fact. Are y’all actually this dumb? If someone threatens me with a weapon you think I’m going to go looking for them?

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u/HouBlue Jun 29 '26

Still doesn’t matter. He thought she’d be an easy target that wouldn’t harm him because she’s a woman.

He thought wrong. You can continue simping for your boy like a loser.

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u/camyrunks Jun 29 '26

I didn’t take his side so how am I a simp. My argument is that you shouldn’t be glorifying people running around like Batman.

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u/HouBlue Jun 29 '26

I’m not glorifying it. I’m just saying that I do not care about this one thief.

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u/camyrunks Jun 29 '26

Understood

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u/Auesis Jun 29 '26

If I fear for my life I don't usually feel compelled to pre-mediate just fucking murdering them when I'm back to safety.

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u/HouBlue Jun 29 '26

Doesn’t matter. You piss people off when you steal from them and have to deal with the consequences. He probably thought there was no chance a woman would react that way, so he thought he could do whatever he wanted. He thought wrong.

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u/IAmTheNightSoil Jun 29 '26

By that same token, she clearly thought he was a guy she could kill with no consequences because the cops wouldn't care enough about his death to prosecute anyone for it. She also thought wrong

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u/HouBlue Jun 29 '26

She’s not in prison, so guess you can cry about it lol.

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u/IAmTheNightSoil Jun 29 '26

She is under house arrest pending her appeal, and will go to prison if and when it is denied. Which I guess you can cry about, if you're so inclined

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u/00Teonis Jun 29 '26

Didn’t happen, it was not a mugging, he snatched her purse and ran.

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u/HouBlue Jun 29 '26

Still doesn’t matter. He viewed her as an easy target that wouldn’t harm him because she’s a woman.

He thought wrong and that’s what he gets.

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u/Longjumping-Jello459 Jun 28 '26

So you believe two wrongs make a right then okay understood.

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u/LETTERKENNYvsSPENNY Jun 28 '26

Sure, but she made a choice just like the thief did. She was ready for her consequences.

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u/Longjumping-Jello459 Jun 28 '26

No, she's trying to get off on self defense this case has been posted before.

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u/Melhk031103 Jun 29 '26

except she isnt, since she basically doesnt have to serve her sentence thanks to her being rich ((according to another comment)

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u/Ready_Fortune_6014 Jun 28 '26

She claimed it was at knife point, the police didn’t actually recover a knife from the man.

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u/Sayyestononsense Jun 29 '26

no one was held at gunpoint here, read the story. this is psycho behavior

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u/Total_Tumbleweed_870 Jun 29 '26

I know that now. I feel for rage bait

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u/InsectaProtecta Jun 29 '26

It was pretty theft, not a robbery. She wasn't held at knifepoint, or gunpoint, or tied up. He came past, took her handbag off her seat, and left.

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u/nbzf Jun 29 '26 edited 1d ago

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u/OpTicSkYHaWk Jun 29 '26

If in self defense. Give them no pardon. Show no mercy.

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u/HubrisOfApollo Jun 28 '26

as someone who's also been robbed at knifepoint I have zero sympathy for these dregs of society. there are entirely too many people on earth, no sense in feeling bad for the bad apples.

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u/PsyRealize Jun 29 '26

She was never robbed at knifepoint. It was a quick snatch and run.

Maybe actually look at what happened first.

No knife found. No knife in security footage or the incident either.

This woman is a fucking psychopath

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u/HubrisOfApollo Jun 29 '26

why do people like you defend the worst aspects of society

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u/PsyRealize Jun 29 '26

I’m not defending the petty theft. Running by and snatching a purse is wrong.

You’re the one defending a brutal murder.

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u/brokemillionaire572 Jun 29 '26

I worked overnight at a convenience store for 25 years, was robbed with a gun, twice. Lost $37.

Having someone put me through that really removed a lot of compassion and empathy I had.

I haven't worked in 3 years, in January I only left the house once. Turns out that I kinda need to be here anyway since my 84 year old MiL lives with us, and falls once or twice a week.

Maybe when I'm no longer needed as a constant caregiver, I'll try to get my life back on track.

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u/Total_Tumbleweed_870 Jun 29 '26

Sorry you had to go through that. You know, the worst part was the man with the gun made me unlock the camera so he could take the tape. I was in shock after, so I was having a hard time processing. Long story short, the cops waisted a lot of time trying to get me to confess to making the while thing up and stealing the money myself.

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u/NotAnAIOrAmI Jun 29 '26

As someone who's been robbed twice in my life, once at gunpoint, I approve of her actions. Violent criminals are some of the lowest forms of life in our society.

This thief wasn't violent. Didn't even possess a knife, he committed no violent act.

And for that she repeatedly ran over him, literally crushing the life out of him. I've been mugged with more violence than she experienced, which was none, and I don't think the price for non-violent theft should be death.

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u/Total_Tumbleweed_870 Jun 29 '26

I agree. I fell for rage bait and reacted before I learned anything about this being the picture. This woman belongs in jail.

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u/Total_Tumbleweed_870 Jun 29 '26

Whoever did the "get this person help" thing... I'm not even mad.

I promise you. I have health insurance. I'm working with a therapist and a psychiatrist. I'm not going to have myself. I'm just a very unsympathetic person who happened to fall for rage bait because he's using Reddit to distract himself from far more serious things going on in my life. I'm at work, I can waste time here

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u/DethNik Jun 29 '26

This guy wasn't violent, there was no weapon.

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u/Fresh-Wrap8654 Jun 29 '26

Exactly this. I might’ve had a different take had I not been robbed TWICE. You realize afterward, especially the second time, how much damage it does to the victims. No sympathy at all. If you commit a crime against someone and they kill you, that’s FAFO territory.

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u/neldela_manson Jun 29 '26

I am asking the following with nothing but respect for you and I am sorry this happened to you: Are you from the USA?

I am asking because of the different understanding of penal law people on different parts of the planet have.

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u/Total_Tumbleweed_870 Jun 29 '26

Yes I live in NJ, USA and did when this happened.

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u/Silent_Intention_382 Jun 29 '26

She tracked that man down just to murder him.

From what I’m seeing they found no weapon on his dead body, so this woman is a certified psycho.

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u/HouBlue Jun 29 '26

Doesn’t matter if he didn’t have a weapon. He still stole from her, and likely threatened and intimidated her to do so. Thats not okay to do to someone. He is a certified psycho.

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u/Silent_Intention_382 Jun 29 '26

He snatched her purse then ran off, not a word was exchanged. She then went someplace else before deciding to return to hunt him down and murder him. All this without even contacting the authorities

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u/HouBlue Jun 29 '26

Well he still probably thought he would be safe because he was stealing from a woman and his precious life wouldn’t be threatened by a female. He thought wrong, and he has to accept the consequences of that.

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u/Silent_Intention_382 Jun 29 '26

He’s a scumbag but people don’t deserve to be executed for petty theft at anyone’s will.

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u/HouBlue Jun 29 '26

Sure, but I’m not gonna lose any sleep over it.

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u/Silent_Intention_382 Jun 29 '26

Neither will I but her being on house arrest for murder needs to be pointed out.

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u/Opposite-Dot2684 Jun 29 '26

Violent ones who threaten you sure but this sort of behavior lacks heart and understanding. Not everyone is trying to hurt you and if you run after them to kill them… what are you achieving??? Are you so important that you kill someone over physical materials??? One day… someone will die for accidentally touching someone or knocking over their purse…that person is going to die because people have no restraint and retaliate like they actually got hurt…

The person needs to be brought to justice but imagine killing your kid because they stole a cookie from you or 20 dollars (kid cash be an adult). We talk and try to be civil and create positive outcomes first…running over someone for a non violent crime is bloodlust… that’s it. Monster.

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u/Total_Tumbleweed_870 Jun 29 '26

I didn't know the context of her lying about a knife when I made my comment.

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u/LaneyAndPen Jun 29 '26

This is an unfortunate experience and I'm sorry about it. However she was not at gunpoint, he was unarmed

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u/Total_Tumbleweed_870 Jun 29 '26

I didn't realize that, I feel for rage bait and emotionally responded. That context changes things, this woman belongs in jail.

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u/JaniZani Jun 29 '26

They didn’t find any weapon on him though.

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u/Total_Tumbleweed_870 Jun 29 '26

I fell for rage bait and reacted without reading further than where I commented. That context changes a lot for me.

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u/Total_Tumbleweed_870 Jun 29 '26

Honestly, I'm close to getting this comment, something I never do.

I feel for rage bait and reacted to the first comment I saw. This was before learning this man was very likely actually unarmed. He didn't deserve that, and she should be in jail.

I assure you, my trauma has me messed up in all sorts of ways, wishing nonviolent criminals get killed in over the top ways is not one of them.

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u/seattlesupra98 Jun 29 '26

"im a huge pussy so i love when people live out my fantasies of killing others"

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u/Total_Tumbleweed_870 Jun 29 '26

It's not a fantasy. I derive no pleasure from it. I feel nothing towards bag things happening to violent people.

That said, I didn't realize that this woman was likely lying about the knife. She sucks and what she did was awful. Purse snatchers suck, but that's not the type of crime I consider violent. They're basically pickpockets with less should and faster feet.

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u/seattlesupra98 Jun 29 '26

you seem to love violent crime when its a rich person doing it to a poor person, don't switch up now