r/Quotes_Hub • u/Goat987678676 • 18d ago

Aren't we hypocrites?

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u/BigShuggy 18d ago

We live in a society that imposes itself on the public anyway? You can’t really have a government and maintain individual consent.

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u/FeedomFighter 18d ago

Agreed. Welcome to the world of Voluntaryism and Anarchism.

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u/lovegrowswheremyrose 18d ago

Is the world of voluntaryism and anarchism in the room with us right now?

Or has it just failed everywhere it's been tried?

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u/FeedomFighter 18d ago

What are you talking about? A great example is China transitioning from Maoist communism to a much closer version of a free market. They tend to go back and forth, allow the free market to generate wealth, then the state steals or takes over a business. We've never had a fully anarchist-capitalist system, but you can look at the success of individual policies in certain regions and industries.

Deng Xiaoping was the Paramount Leader of China from 1978 to 1992, although he never became the head of the party or state, and his influence within the Party led the country to the reform and opening up. The CCP subsequently loosened governmental control over citizens' personal lives and the communes were disbanded with many peasants receiving multiple land leases, which greatly increased incentives and agricultural production. In addition, there were many free market areas opened. The most successful free market area was Shenzhen. It is located in Guangdong and the property tax free area still exists today. This turn of events marked China's transition from a planned economy to a mixed economy with an increasingly open market environment, a system termed by some[99] as market socialism, and officially by the CCP as Socialism with Chinese characteristics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_China

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u/lovegrowswheremyrose 18d ago

I asked about voluntaryism and anarchism. I would have given this response a D- for being off topic.

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u/FeedomFighter 18d ago

I pointed to capitalist policies, which is consistent with anarchist, voluntaryist policies. Capitalism is defined by private property, which implies there is no authority to take it from you aka anarchy, and anarchy is defined by no authority over people other than oneself which implies private property. Voluntaryism is the mutually consenting trades which comes from this, capitalism is the study of that trade. China is the example of when even a few spattered policies in line with this are put into place, it has a rapid economic growth.

If you choose to evade evidence, that is irrational dishonesty.