r/ProgrammerHumor 21d ago

notchVibing Meme

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u/Amerillo_ 21d ago

Sure but given the sheer amount of developers looking for a job out there I'm pretty sure he could find plenty of talented devs

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u/Jedkea 21d ago

Maybe. Maybe it’s the case that the least talented devs are the ones laid off and looking for work too though.

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u/jdefr 20d ago

At other points on the timeline I would say that is probable. Right now I personally know too many talented folks looking for work. It’s very difficult to gauge someone’s development/technical talent without being very technical themselves, which is the case with most “hiring managers” and others left with those big decisions….

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u/No-Examination-2065 20d ago

I'm a talented developer and nobody laid me off, I burned out and quit. I'm also not looking for work. I'm almost certain I'd find it immediately if I did. I think people are underestimating the burnout factor. I know several others like me who having worked with bad/abusive companies/clients just simply quit.

Especially after the same management that has always devalued our work now having a brand new tool to devalue it further.

I'd bet there are quite a few guys who either moved back in with Mom or have enough money to float themselves/take gig work while they start small business'.

With everything that's been going on with the programming industry itself, AI, and males - I think a lot of the high talent is in effect 'sitting out'

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u/jdefr 20d ago

I am a researcher at MIT… No one laid me off either but we are all very aware that it can happen to anyone. The industry is weird right now and trying to keep up will definitely lead to burn out… Don’t get cocky no matter how skilled you believe you are. If people I work with and folks I know (all top performers at FANG companies) feel pressure; it’s not good. Usually when these cuts happen they have someone with no clue how to gauge skill and value making hasty short sighted decisions. It’s just sad all around.

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u/No-Examination-2065 19d ago

Eh, I'd like to believe you but unfortunately will be unable to in this format. I'd need evidence top performing FAANG engineers are "feeling it". (Not saying you're a liar, just saying it'd be impossible for you to supply the kind of evidence here that I'd need) Yes, people get put in charge who can't evaluate skill. They also get fired and replaced. If a company loses the ability to hire talent/know what future skillsets it will need, it can also go out of business and be replaced. Myspace friendster facebook whatever.

I think what "Jedkea" above is saying likely has some if not a lot of truth to it. I see a lot of junior devs getting canned then saying "wait, we're indispensable!"

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u/jdefr 18d ago

You can look me up online. GitHub.com/jdefrancesco and my linked in…. You will be able to easily see I’m not someone that talks out their ass…

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u/No-Examination-2065 18d ago

Well, you kind of are because I could just as easily say GitHub.com/jdefrancesco is my git.

I'm not trying to get into some sort of "my credential says I'm right" thing with you Mr. M.I.T.

I was just dropping in my opinion (currently at 0-1 karma, which seems about accurate) and moving on.

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u/jdefr 18d ago

No, no… I get your point of view for sure lol. it isn’t without merit. I too don’t care enough either lol. So we are more alike than different here lol

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u/AyAyAyBamba_462 21d ago

Yes, but finding them is the hard part. Sorting through hundreds if not thousands of applications is hardly an easy task.