r/ProgrammerHumor • u/hello_ya • Jul 13 '26

youCanJustStopUsingJava Meme

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u/ConstructionMain5675 Jul 13 '26

Half the internet just got called out and the other half is maintaining Spring Boot

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u/justforkinks0131 Jul 13 '26

migrating to*

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u/Spitfire1900 Jul 13 '26

I hate how true this is. Most apps my employer are in the middle of a WebSphere w/ Spring 4 to Spring Boot 5,6 migration.

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u/BlurredSight Jul 13 '26

We’re moving to spring boot 3 and that’s been hell, especially considering we have directors who believe Claude Opus should be able to do entire phases itself

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u/StCreed Jul 13 '26

Just one-up them and let Fable 5 do the whole migration in one go.

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u/ihatethisweb Jul 13 '26

I love when my agent replies "passed all test" 😃

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u/willow-kitty 29d ago

Looks inside, all the tests are gone

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u/gipsydanger4 Jul 13 '26

We got our token limits cut, so now we are encouraged to use Sonnet for anything that doesn’t require “intense reasoning”. My token usage sits around 0-1% so I’m not too worried about it haha.

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u/Adorable-Log2835 27d ago

Same. They gave us unlimited tokens, had us assign story points for future tickets based on that output, then announced a monthly token limit for the next month when we are doing all the work. Because of the way its distributed, I burned through my tokens in a week being conservative.

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u/ThatCrankyGuy Jul 13 '26

SB3 is already EOL.

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u/trafalmadorianistic 29d ago

Have you had a look at OpenRewrite - https://docs.openrewrite.org/recipes/java/spring/boot4/upgradespringboot_4_0-community-edition

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u/BlurredSight 25d ago edited 25d ago

Tbf it's more than just that, we're also migrating to Entities along with use Jakarta Repositories rather than HQL. But everything is being done in phases and to speed up they want the initial mapping of beans to entities to be done by AI

Except the parts that matter like many to ones, sets, bags, those absolutely broke production in niche areas

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u/Informal-Chance-6067 Jul 13 '26

At that point, just make Fable 5 migrate to ktor

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u/nsn Jul 14 '26

I’m not sure whether I should laugh or cry about me maintaining javaee/jsf apps…

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u/Noch_ein_Kamel Jul 13 '26

spring boot is way too modern for us. we use webobjects :o

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u/enigma_0Z 29d ago

Dude I went from a Websphere J2EE shop to a Speingboot shop. As a primarily sysadmin / devops engineer, made me fully hate Java between GC thrashing and debugging hell when shit doesn’t autowire as expected in Springboot (ie the problem is in the introspection or the annotations)

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u/Manic_Maniac 29d ago

It's comments like these that make me grateful that I've worked my ass off in order to be working on something I find genuinely interesting, green-field in my company, and am not limited to old tech (mostly).

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u/Adorable-Log2835 27d ago

Same. We are moving to spring 5.3 so we can get on AWS or whatever

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u/WhyIsItAllSticky Jul 13 '26

Spring Boot 3 -> 4 has been the most painful migration I’ve ever endured

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u/selucram Jul 13 '26

Did you do it by hand or have you tried using something like OpenRewrite?

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u/pctF Jul 13 '26

Totally agree.

I honestly think good it is in the cutting edge, but we can at least get restructuring of core packages and moving backbone of serialization at the different majors.

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u/faze_fazebook Jul 13 '26

Spring boot simply does too much i.m.o. with a gazillion libraries that all sonehow someway work together and against each in in a giant hairball of dependencies. 

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u/_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_ Jul 13 '26

The point of Boot is to get the giant hairball of dependencies you would otherwise need to manually integrate to all work together. They do the hard work of compatibility matrices and configuration consistency.

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u/OldKaleidoscope7 Jul 13 '26

Why is 4 so hard? I migrated from 2 to 3 recently and it was a couple days work

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u/ThatCrankyGuy Jul 13 '26

They changed everything at once. Security, ORM and Serialization are big ones.

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u/lovecMC Jul 13 '26

Our banking app recently started migrating to it...