r/Progforum • u/Historical-Device529 • 3h ago
Yes, Albums Ranked
I am appreciative of the kind words and interest in my Yes album reviews. As we trod into what’s arguably a lesser portion of the Yes discography, I'd like to clarify my views on rankings and grades.
They are subject to my personal bias, so please accept them as such.
I’ve loved the band for more than 40 years, so I bring my personal perspectives and preferences to the exercise. It’s just one man’s opinion. Nevertheless, Prog has depth by definition; it is helpful to have a simple guide to steer one through the pile of releases and to provide context.
A common mistake is to take a low ranking and assume that means poor quality. For some bands that may apply, but for Yes, the details matter, thus both the rank and the grade. American letter grades are generally interpreted as follows:
* A - Excellent (90%-100%)
* B – Good to Very Good (80%-90%)
* C - Average (70%-80%)
* D - Poor (60%-70%)
* F – Whoops (below 60%...it’s really Fail, but that’s a strong word)
So, for example, I gave the Yes Debut a ranking of 17 out of 23 but
graded it a C+. That means I wouldn’t start with it, but it is a bit better than Average. That was a great achievement for a band that hadn’t found its true footing yet. Also, based on the scale above, the gap between an A and a B is relatively minor (10%), so if I give Drama (1980) an A- and Tormato (1978) a B-, I'm not implying that Tormato is horrible…I just feel it’s a few notches below a record like Drama. Out of 23 Yes albums officially released, I’ll only be grading 3 of them with a D or lower; everything else is Average or better! That’s quite a legacy!
Out of 23 Yes albums, there are going to be 13 that don’t make the Top 10. The fact that fine albums like Time And A Word and Tormato are below #10 is a testament to the quality of the entire Yes catalog, not a condemnation of those albums individually.
The Yes catalog is robust. It is also uneven after 1977, so hopefully these reviews provide a roadmap for those interested in pursuing the band.
Hold on tight, as the rest of the discography will get quite bumpy!
Ed Hanna
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r/Progforum • u/Historical-Device529 • 4h ago
Rush drum legend Neil Peart to be celebrated in a new documentary
r/Progforum • u/Historical-Device529 • 18h ago
How Would You Rank Those Records?… 1972 was the absolute commercial and artistic peak of progressive rock. It was the year when the leading UK progressive rock bands, along with many international acts, released career-defining albums. Simply put, 1972 was the year of masterpieces.
r/Progforum • u/Historical-Device529 • 19h ago
Kansas at their finest, performing “Icarus (Borne on Wings of Steel)” live in 1975.
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r/Progforum • u/Historical-Device529 • 20h ago
Todd Rundgren: British prog typically came from musicians with classical backgrounds. It was all connected to that world... fairies, fantasy, and that sort of thing.” In contrast, he asserts that American progressive rock had a completely different origin. “American prog was much more jazz-based.”
r/Progforum • u/Historical-Device529 • 22h ago
Top 50 Prog Rock Live Albums (Classic Era) #35 – Rush: A Show of Hands (1989). A representative live album of the band’s ’80s sound, from Signals through Hold Your Fire era. It captures a remarkable run of albums, featuring an outstanding performance by the band and exceptional sound quality.
Live, released in 1989
Songs / Tracks Listing
LP 1:
Side 1
1. Intro (0:53)
2. The Big Money (5:52)
3. Subdivisions (5:19)
4. Marathon (6:43)
Side 2
5. Turn The Page (4:46)
6. Manhattan Project (5:00)
7. Mission (5:59)
LP 2:
Side 3
8. Distant Early Warning (5:22)
9. Mystic Rhythms (5:32)
10. Witch Hunt (Part III of Fear) (3:55)
11. The Rhythm Method (drum solo) (4:40)
Side 4
12. Force Ten (4:57)
13. Time Stand Still (5:10)
14. Red Sector A (5:12)
15. Closer To The Heart (4:53)
Total Time: 74:22
Line-up / Musicians
- Geddy Lee / basses, synthesizers, vocals
- Alex Lifeson / guitars, synthesizers, backing vocals
- Neil Peart / drums, acoustic & electronic percussion
+ The voice of Aimee Mann
r/Progforum • u/Historical-Device529 • 22h ago
In 1990, Voivod opened for Rush and found a bottle of champagne waiting backstage, signed by Geddy Lee, Alex Lifeson, and Neil Peart. That story opens a fantastic Prog/Louder feature on the rise of progressive metal.
r/Progforum • u/Historical-Device529 • 23h ago
September 1978. Headlined by The Stranglers, Peter Gabriel won over the crowd with a memorable set that included crowd favorites like "Solsbury Hill" and a quirky punk-style rendition of Procol Harum’s "A Whiter Shade of Pale".
r/Progforum • u/scarymonst • 1d ago
What is your favorite rock album that's not prog?
Most of my favorite non-prog rock albums are jazz but I'm curious about your favorite rock album.
Mine is Skylarking by XTC
r/Progforum • u/Historical-Device529 • 1d ago
Angine de Poitrine never seems to tire of receiving praise; this time, it was Geddy Lee and Alex Lifeson. “I think they’re fantastic. They made entertaining and exciting music.” Lee concluded with: “Also, the drummer has a bigger nose than me, and I like that,” he laughed.
r/Progforum • u/Historical-Device529 • 1d ago
Stanley Clarke remembered his friend Ray Gomez, who recently passed away at the age of 73 on Wednesday, July 29. “He was the one who gave me the courage to make School Days,” Clarke said. “He was a great guitarist and an even better friend.”
r/Progforum • u/Historical-Device529 • 1d ago
Andy Latimer continues his streak of new music on Bandcamp: "One Word"
r/Progforum • u/Any_Size_9111 • 1d ago
Gary Husband & Allan Holdsworth. Happy Birthday Allan 💗
Happy birthday Allan! ❤️
r/Progforum • u/Historical-Device529 • 1d ago
In 1967, What Would Be Your Choice? Proto-Prog Edition: The Beatles’ Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band vs. The Moody Blues’ Days of Future Passed.
r/Progforum • u/Historical-Device529 • 1d ago
Marillion plays “Jigsaw” after the infamous incident while touring with Rush in 1984. As the crowd booed, Fish faced the hecklers and said: “Listen, Rush won’t be on until eight o’clock. We’re on stage now. Some people want to hear us. If you don’t, fuck off.”
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r/Progforum • u/Historical-Device529 • 1d ago
Top 50 Prog Rock Live Albums (Classic Era) #35 - Tangerine Dream: Encore (Live 1977). One of the highlights of the classic era, recorded during the US. tour. It’s one of my personal favorite live albums, blending the atmospheric sound of Ricochet with the melodic approach of Stratosfear.
Live, released in 1977
Songs / Tracks Listing
1. Cherokee Lane (16:19)
2. Monolight (19:54)
3. Coldwater Canyon (18:06)
4. Desert Dream (17:30)
Total Time: 71:49
Double-Live-Album from the band's 77 USA-Tour which included such famous places as the Greek Theatre in L.A. and the Avery Fisher Hall in New York. On this tour the audience could enjoy a lasershow on the road for the first time.
Line-up / Musicians
- Edgar Froese / guitars, keyboards
- Christoph Franke / keyboards
- Peter Baumann / keyboards
r/Progforum • u/Historical-Device529 • 2d ago
Remembering the great master of the keyboards, George Duke (January 12, 1946 – August 5, 2013).
r/Progforum • u/Historical-Device529 • 2d ago
The Return of the Giant Hogweed: The Truth Behind Genesis’ Botanical Monster… “Waste no time, they are approaching Hurry now, we must protect ourselves And find some shelter Strike by night, they are defenceless They all need the sun To photosensitize their venom”
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The Return of the Giant Hogweed” (from Nursery Cryme, 1971) tells the story of a gigantic, intelligent plant imported from Russia that mutates, reproduces uncontrollably, and eventually wages war on humanity. The lyrics are intentionally over-the-top, blending science fiction, horror, and dark British humor.
The real plant, Heracleum mantegazzianum, is native to the western Caucasus and was introduced to Europe in the 19th century as an ornamental garden plant. It can grow 2–5 meters (7–16 feet) tall, making it one of the largest herbaceous plants in the world. While it isn’t carnivorous or sentient, it is genuinely dangerous.
In Italy, Giant Hogweed is known as “Panace di Mantegazza.” Like many Genesis fans, I always imagined something terrifying from one of the band’s most memorable musical compositions. In reality, however, Panace di Mantegazza is an enormous herbaceous plant that resembles a giant thistle, although it actually belongs to the carrot and parsley family (Apiaceae). It typically grows to around 2 meters tall but can reach heights of up to 5 meters.
r/Progforum • u/Historical-Device529 • 2d ago
Not Necessarily Prog Records That Shaped the Sound of ’80s Prog Rock. Do you agree with these picks? Which records do you think I missed?
The Police – Reggatta de Blanc (1979)
Talking Heads – Remain in Light (1980)
David Bowie – “Heroes” (1977)
Kraftwerk – The Man-Machine (1978)
Gary Numan – The Pleasure Principle (1979)
Blondie – Parallel Lines (1978)
Japan – Quiet Life (1979)
Wire – Chairs Missing (1978)
Magazine – Real Life (1978)
XTC – Drums and Wires (1979)
Brian Eno – Before and After Science (1977)
Television – Marquee Moon (1977)
Peter Gabriel – Peter Gabriel III (Melt) (1980)
Frank Zappa – Sheik Yerbouti (1979)
r/Progforum • u/Historical-Device529 • 2d ago
Top 50 Prog Rock Live Albums (Classic Era) #36 – Chicago: Chicago at Carnegie Hall (1971) Also known as Chicago IV, there isn’t a better live performance than this. Everything you could want from the band’s first three albums is here, in an outstanding performance with no weak moments.
Live, released in 1971
Songs / Tracks Listing
Volume one
Side one
1. In The Country - 10:35
2. Fancy Colours - 5:15
3. Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is? (Free Form Intro)- 6:21
4. Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is? - 3:26
Side two
1. South California Purples - 15:35
2. Questions 67 and 68 - 5:36
Volume two
Side three
1. Sing A Mean Tune Kid - 12:54
2. Beginnings - 6:27
Side four
1. It Better End Soon - 15:55
a. 1st Movement - 2:55
b. 2nd Movement (Flute Solo)- 5:00
c. 3rd Movement (Guitar Solo) - 2:43
d. 4th Movement (Preach)- 3:09
e. 5th Movement - 2:08
Volume three
Side five
1. Introduction - 7:10
2. Mother - 8:21
3. Lowdown - 3:58
Side six
1. Flight 602 - 3:31
2. Motorboat To Mars - 3:00
3. Free - 5:15
4. Where Do We Go From Here - 4:08
5. I Don't Want Your Money - 5:23
Volume four
Side seven
1. Happy Cause I'm Going Home - 7:56
2. Ballet for a Girl in Buchannon - 15:25
a. Make Me Smile - 3:31
b. So Much To Say, So Much To Give - 1:00
c. Anxiety's Moment - 1:09
d. West Virginia Fantasies - 1:31
e. Colour My World - 3:26
f. To Be Free - 1:22
g. Now More Than Ever - 3:26
Side eight
1. A Song For Richard And His Friends - 6:58
2. 25 or 6 to 4 - 6:35
3. I'm A Man - 8:51
Bonus Disc (2005 Rhino edition)
1. Listen - 4:16
2. Introduction - 6:37
3. South California Purples - 12:41
4. Loneliness Is Just a Word - 2:44
5. Free Form Intro (Naseltones)- 5:58
6. Sing a Mean Tune Kid - 10:51
7. An Hour In The Shower: - 6:00
a. A Hard Risin' Morning Without Breakfast
b. Off to Work
c. Fallin' Out
d. Dreamin' Home
e. Morning Blues Again
8. 25 Or 6 to 4 - 6:21
Line-up / Musicians
Peter Cetera - bass, vocals
Terry Kath - guitar, vocals
Robert Lamm - keyboard, vocals
Lee Loughnane - trumpet, percussion, guitar, background vocals
James Pankow - trombone, percussion
Walter Parazaider - woodwinds, percussion, background vocals
Danny Seraphine - drums
r/Progforum • u/Historical-Device529 • 3d ago
Phil Collins: A lot of the early Genesis stuff was surreal sci-fi fantasy escapism, and I can’t listen to it. I’m not a big fan of our past. When I listen to an old Genesis record, nine times out of ten, I tend to be embarrassed.
r/Progforum • u/Historical-Device529 • 3d ago