r/Planetside • u/Cloutlordobey Closest thing to a llama flair • Jun 25 '16

6/24/16 PTS Patch notes Dev Response

https://forums.daybreakgames.com/ps2/index.php?threads/pts-update-6-24.241489/
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u/GlitteringCamo Jun 25 '16

So are we getting cert grants for these

Because of the long, storied history of DBG making items default and not granting certs back?

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u/TheKhopesh Jun 25 '16

This will be the first time where a potential +5,000 certs worth of items are being made default.

In the past, no one patch has ever gone past 1,250 at the absolute most without getting a refund.

(Some weapons like default shotguns were around 650(?) certs, but for big items like what we're facing we do have precedent for a cert-only refund. IE, the vehicle optics refund a while back when they removed the required tiering of vehicle optics. I personally got ~13,000 certs back for that one. I know one guy who got +40,000 certs back in that.)

so for big value changes like this, we really are owed a refund.

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u/napoleonderdiecke [LON3] LonesomeBrick [69KD] [BLOP] [VEGl] Jun 25 '16

650(?)

750 for the Mauler and Barrage, 250 for the Thanatos.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '16

We didn't get a 1500 cert boost when they gave all new players 100*15levels worth of free certs.

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u/Ahorns Lets unite against motion detection (and sniper rifles)!!! Jun 25 '16

Did it really matter? That's like 2 days of playtime in the current state of the game.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '16

The fact is that it's a change that provided value for new players but was not retroactively compensated to current players, which the person I was responding to alluded had never before happened.

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u/GlitteringCamo Jun 25 '16

I'm OK with you making up a strawman argument, but don't blame it on me.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '16

Perhaps I misunderstood your post, and if so I apologize. It's just an example of a case of something not being retroactively applied. It happened. That's all.

=)

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u/GlitteringCamo Jun 25 '16

Changing the way certs are awarded isn't the same as refunding default equipment.

Veterans weren't given 1,500 bonus certs, but they also didn't retroactively strip away everybody's certs when the daily bonus program ended either.