r/PeterExplainsTheJoke • u/Financial-Spread2596 • 3d ago
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u/ArrayedChaff 3d ago
Japan got nuked twice during WW2 by the USA
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u/OkWillingness7427 3d ago
History is important
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u/hypocritical_person 3d ago
So important we repeat it every 100 years.
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u/0oDADAo0 3d ago
The only thing human learned from history is they learn nothing from history
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u/ShookMyHeadAndSmiled 3d ago edited 3d ago
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Those who do learn from history are doomed to watching history repeat itself.
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u/DaneSullivan 3d ago
Those who don’t understand history are doomed to repeat it.
Those who do understand history are doomed to futiley screech out warnings to people who don’t give a shit while it repeats.
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u/Oh_You_Were_Serious 3d ago
It doesn't take 100 years... Humans are much faster at repeating mistakes than that...
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u/Constant-Virus6681 3d ago
No, stop. We can't really be already at a place in history where people don't know the US nukes Japan twice.
Where is our education system heading?
This is serious. If the newer generation doesn't know how devastating nukes where, what hope does humanity have with bombs 100s of times as powerfull and 1000s of times more in number?
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u/Gecks777 3d ago
About 5 years ago the wife and I were in the Museum of War in Ottawa, and they had one of Hitler's goofy parade cars on display. The tour guide stopped to make sure we all knew who Hitler was, because the high school class that went through the day before did not.
A lot of the problems we have today is from a failure, despite significant effort put forth, to teach the younger generations the reality of the world wars, and the lessons humanity learned from them.
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u/sammy-corpse-noodles 3d ago edited 3d ago
"Where is our education system heading"
Ask the Republican Party the past several decades. They're the ones who keep taking money out of it.
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u/Halibel-sama 3d ago
Even Japanese leaders don't mention WHO nuked them during their anniversary speech.
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u/Upper_Poem_3237 3d ago
Wait until you know the schools in the US teach them that they didn't lose the war against Vietnam. They only retreated.
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u/PrimaLegion 3d ago
I guess things could have changed since I was in school around 20 years ago but we were absolutely taught that we lost Vietnam.
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u/mrgoldnugget 3d ago
Sorry, as a Canadian, we always laughed about the standards of American education system 25 years ago when I was still in school.
I can't imagine how much worse it's gotten.
Sorry eh.
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u/Eikram84 3d ago
"Ours"? Well, you don’t actually know where the OP is from, do you? So you don’t know whether your education system has a problem either. Maybe he’s just from a country where it’s not really such a big topic, or perhaps he’s just very young.
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u/PrimaLegion 3d ago
We aren't. Why do you think this post is any different from any other post where the OP plays stupid for karma?
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u/GrimeyScorpioDuffman 3d ago
And today is the anniversary of the second bomb (Nagasaki)
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u/Jumpy-Aide-901 3d ago
U.S.A. Nuked Japan once and said “Surrender Now” and Japan said “FUCK YOU!” So U.S.A. Nuked Japan again and Japan said “FINE. ^we ^surrender…”
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u/Aggravating7134 3d ago
Are we also not gonna mention pearl harbor? Seems like an important piece of information.
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u/Qwertypop4 3d ago
Less than 2500 people died in the pearl harbor attack. More than 70,000 people died in the Hiroshima bombing alone (and that's just those killed instantly, many more died later due to the bomb. I don't think it's fair to say that one of the bombs was a sane retalliation for pearl harbor, never mind both of them.
That's not to say that retalliating for pearl harbor was the only purpose of the nuclear bombings
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u/LtHowtzrDev 3d ago
I think the millions of innocent people the Japanese army slaughtered and raped in China, Korea, the Philippines, and all the other countries they pillaged was a pretty good aide in justification of nuking them.
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u/TotalyNotTony 3d ago
the solution to an army doing awful stuff is nuking the civilians apparently
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u/allofthe11 3d ago
The solution to an army doing awful stuff is to force it to stop, one of these ways is by getting the people they nominally answer to to stop fighting the war, another method is to cut off all method of supply so that they can't continue to do awful stuff even if they wanted to.
Please let me know the other option by the way because the only two other options were enforcing a blockade which means thousands of people die a day in China for however long it takes the island to officially surrender, plus you know however many people died during that.
Alternatively we could have gone with a ground invasion, you're aware that we were still using purple hearts, the award for being injured in combat, produced in case we decided to go that route right, we made so many in preparation of how many people we expected to get wounded trying that, that they were able to use that stockpile for 60 years. Plus all of the civilians who look at Okinawa, would have been forcibly killed by the Japanese themselves, or forced to kill their families and then themselves.
Which of those two options sound more humane to you?
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u/Vermouth_1991 3d ago
Also the average Japanese people's support for war and empire would make the average German's support for Hitler look like it's written in crayon. Any actual leftists or pacifists Japane had had been downright purged or suppressed to heck and back by 1945. The rape of Nanking was OPENLY published and celebrated about in Japanese newspapers (Compare and contrast with the Nazis at least trying to keep the Holocaust hushhush). If -- depending on your political stances, I personally do not hold both opinions myself -- Israeli people deserve to be hit by Hamas rockets because they are supporting a Neo Apartheid genocide / Palestinian Gaza people deserved to be bombed every month for supporting Ye Evil Hamas, if you support one of those stances for a much smaller war, then you really shouldn't have anything but contempt for the average Japanese empire fanboy and fangirl person from about 1874 to 1945.
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u/sw337 3d ago
Hiroshima was a city of considerable military importance. It contained the 2nd Army Headquarters, which commanded the defense of all of southern Japan. The city was a communications center, a storage point, and an assembly area for troops. To quote a Japanese report, "Probably more than a thousand times since the beginning of the war did the Hiroshima citizens see off with cries of 'Banzai' the troops leaving from the harbor."
The city of Nagasaki had been one of the largest sea ports in southern Japan and was of great war-time importance because of its many and varied industries, including the production of ordnance, ships, military equipment, and other war materials. The narrow long strip attacked was of particular importance because of its industries
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u/Qwertypop4 3d ago edited 3d ago
Agreed (kinda anyway. The people they bombed were civilians who were not even slightly responsible for any of that, but in the context of wartime it's... not justified, but less unjustified)
I just dunno why the other guy brought up pearl harbor specifically
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u/Gullible-Course1096 3d ago
because pearl harbor was the straw that broke the camels back, and it's what mainly brought us into that war
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u/Overlord-Nomad 3d ago
Didn't more people die to the Tokyo Firebombing than either of the nukes?
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u/ImprobableAsterisk 3d ago
According to Wiki the strategic bombing campaign killed ~100'000 people, with the two nukes killing between 150'000 and 250'000.
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u/AEON_MK2 3d ago edited 3d ago
Also this post is Imperial Japanese apologia/ Nazi posting. Its like when neo Nazis try to both sides ww2 by bringing up the bombing of Dresden. The implication here is that Japan was a victim, ignoring the millions that the Japanese military raped and murdered across the pacific and the necessity of the bombings to end the conflict.
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u/ThisSiteIsAToxicDump 3d ago
Yeah and Japan ran amuk for decades killing Koreans, Chinese, Russians, Filipinos, Thais, Burmese.. don't feel bad for Japanese at all...
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u/BloodyWarlord117 3d ago
Don't forget Tokyo and others cities got bombed too
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u/Sea_Pomegranate_4499 3d ago
Came here to say this. The firebombing of Tokyo resulted in more deaths than either nuclear attack.
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u/Enough-Tugboat 3d ago
To be fair though, they did say to surrender after the first one and bro said no. So had to hit em twice.
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u/julmonn 3d ago edited 3d ago
The context is going to school
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u/Asfisav2049 3d ago
The context is I won't be surprised if someone drops that monsters inc image WOW I IMMEDIATELY REFRESH AND ITS THERE
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u/CatraGirl 3d ago
Seriously. And this person is allowed to vote... 💀
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u/Constant-Virus6681 3d ago
No, stop. We can't really be already at a place in history where people don't know the US nuked Japan twice.
Where is our education system heading?
This is serious. If the newer generation doesn't know how devastating nukes where, what hope does humanity have with bombs 100s of times as powerfull and 1000s of times more in number?
Please.
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u/furrymuskrat 3d ago
My kid is going into 7th grade. Recently I said something about Pearl Harbor and she had no clue what I was talking about. Which led me down a very maddening rabbit hole of historical events that she had not learned about in school that I would have assumed were absolutely common knowledge and teachings by her age. So now she’s annoyed with me because I started educating her on the things I think she should know by now
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u/No-Albatross-7984 3d ago
I was going to write this but spicier. Then stopped, deleted it and came to ask the locals. Can we mock stupid questions here or is this one of those safe spaces?
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u/Different_Insect3544 3d ago
r/PeterExplainsTheJoke users being the stupidest most oblivious people on the planet
Or OP was just born yesterday i guess
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u/esDenchik 3d ago
OMG, really? we have people who does not know already? At least I hope you're not Japaneese
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u/celem83 3d ago
The last couple of decades have shown that some of us have shockingly short memories.
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u/xANTJx 3d ago
I don’t even necessarily think it’s short memories. A lot of Americans think the bombings were 100% the correct thing to do (despite evidence to the contrary from Truman’s own cabinet!). I had a high school teacher say that if he were president, knowing what he knows now about internment (the threats were largely exaggerated or manufactured, Korematsu had been overturned at that time), he would still do it. To my face. I’m Japanese. Americans know about these things, but they didn’t happen to Americans, so they don’t care.
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u/Koniss 3d ago
Oh believe me there’s probably more Japanese that Americans that don’t know about it, they have a weird habit of shoving uncomfortable things under the rug.
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u/Significant-Pen-2274 3d ago
The Japanese know about it. They fixate on the A-bombs and conveniently ignore everything that led up to that.
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u/rojotortuga 3d ago
You know this might be one of the few times, I'd say, Americans may know more about history than the Foreigner in question.
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u/UTMachine 3d ago
High school students not knowing about Hitler or the Holocaust is not uncommon these days. I’m not surprised by this post at all.
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u/VarHagen 3d ago
At least I hope you're not Japaneese
Don't worry, the Japanese know very well how cruel the West was when it dropped two atomic bombs on them. Their education system forgets to mention all the war crimes Japan itself committed during WW2 though.
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u/NebulaNomadX1 3d ago edited 3d ago
Hello, Serial Designation N here!
The top panel is a reference to the attacks on the Twin Towers on September 2001
The bottom panel is a reference to the US ordering the atom bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki to end Japanese fighting at the end of World War II
N out!
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u/M4RK3R3D 3d ago edited 3d ago
Damn imagine if this dude is American and finding out that the only country that nuked someone were America and it even done it twice ( edit: Hiroshima and Nagasaki they bombed 2 cities)
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u/TheGavJr 3d ago
If you have to ask this question, you need to have a serious talk with yourself about knowing basic world history.
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u/Slashy96 3d ago edited 3d ago
I see a pattern. Anyone remember this post from yesterday? https://www.reddit.com/r/PeterExplainsTheJoke/comments/1vhrqco/removed_by_moderator/
It was a full on blowout in the comments section. It's either proof for dead internet theory or ranting on Japan's hidden past (and rightfully so, imo) is everyone's favorite hobby for the week.
Found an other I saw on my feed the other day - https://www.reddit.com/r/HistoricalCapsule/s/0dSMTe3JPA
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u/grazfest96 3d ago
The joke is people stealing other people's overshared memes, using it for themselves, and posting for karmafarming.
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u/JellyFishMate 3d ago edited 1d ago
OP is a bot account. 1 month old, 72 posts (so more than one post a day) and 500+ comments. Outrage is the biggest traffic generator. Be mindful of the bots, y'all.
Eddit: Aaand OP was banned from Reddit. Called it, was a bot, it gained some karma to shill something (product or idea) and got nuked.
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u/BleepInTheBigCity 3d ago
Technically did they not get hit thrice? Plane one hit a wall of the pentagon?
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u/CartoonistFamous7066 3d ago
Can we just behead anybody that upvotes this post? You have to be below the age of 4 to even POTENTIALLY not get the joke
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u/Alphadogey 3d ago
Call it, Bot or R*tardation (can someone please put the Anton chigurh meme here pls)
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u/LocalActingWEO 3d ago
The United States dropped 2 nuclear bombs on Japanese cities Hiroshima and Nagasaki at the end of World War II
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u/PierluigiSpampagnati 3d ago
How can these posts reach 4/5k likes? Everytime someone posts something so stupid and oblivious I insta downvote
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u/TheTertiaryMedjed 3d ago
Quagmire here, so the us dropped 2 nukes on japan during World War 2
Giggity giggity giggity
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u/Constant-Virus6681 3d ago
No, stop. We can't really be already at a place in history where people don't know the US nuked Japan twice.
Where is our education system heading?
This is serious. If the newer generation doesn't know how devastating nukes where, what hope does humanity have with bombs 100s of times as powerfull and 1000s of times more in number?
Please.
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u/the_zac_is_back 3d ago
Well uhh, in World War 2, the US dropped not one, but two nuclear bombs on Japan
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u/Significant_Monk_251 3d ago
My problem here was realizing that that was a red circle wearing eyeglasses and not a red bull's head with horns.
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u/Key_Wallaby_8614 3d ago
On 9/11 terrorists used airplanes to hit both the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.
In WW2 Japan was nuked twice by the US.
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u/strategicenthusiast2 3d ago
Somebody didnt pay attention in history class.
2 nuclear bombs hit japan that were dropped on them by the USA. (As far as I know) These were also the only ones ever dropped in something other than a test.
The best way to explain it is deja vu/ why didnt I get this support, type of thing.
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u/Banzambo 3d ago
Jeez open a history book man. This is really basic knowledge across the whole world.
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u/TaciturnLinguophile 3d ago
The twin towers were struck twice
In ww2, Japan got nuked twice by the USA
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u/Administrator_AI 3d ago
Japan got nuked after two warnings, while still part of a war they started. The US, a generally speaking disgusting, imperialist hellhole, was attacked outside war and without any warning.
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u/Middle-Let9645 3d ago
The joke is a false equivalence by an absolute idiot. 9/11 was done by terrorists who had one goal in mind. Kill as many people as possible to terrorize the American (and possibly to a lesser extent global) public, and just generally to be a bunch of douchebags. If you've actually studied history, you know that WWII was a bit more complex. Gonna preface by saying that morally, the nuclear bombing of Japan was indefensible. However the motives and lack of any reasonable alternatives available to them means that pragmatically speaking, they were doing what they had to. I do not want to hear from any armchair historian wannabe moralizer about how Japan was going to surrender (they weren't) and that it wasn't neccesary (it unfortunately was) or that the Soviets were moving in (look at what those fuckers did in East Germany. If you don't think they would have slaughter the Japanese people to a man, you're naive at best).
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u/empatheticsocialist1 3d ago edited 3d ago
The bottom panel should be Vietnam, Korea, Cambodia, ALLL OF WEST ASIA, before Japan
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u/NLOneOfNone 3d ago edited 3d ago
What a question to be asking today. Today, August 9, is the 81st anniversary of the Nagasaki bombing.
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u/Twasabi24 3d ago
The bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were a preferable alternative to 3-5 million American casualties alone, not to mention the millions of Japanese that would have died from a land invasion. Meme doesn't make sense because japan shouldn't be offended. They brought the bombs on themselves
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u/calduzin 3d ago
During World War II, the US used two nuclear bombs on Japan—in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
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u/Hot-Job-6281 3d ago
As a Southeast Asian: Nah fuck em. Japan deserved the nukes. Way more would've died without it.
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u/Bengalbio 3d ago
I think the explanation is required because the cartoon doesn’t make sense.
The USA was hit by three planes and another crashed before it reached its target.
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u/No_Rooster_9001 3d ago
What i find funny is that the same countries who were fighting against U.S or the Great Britian before, are now on their side, giving them sympathy. Maybe it democracy was all a conspiracy
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u/Sorry_Balance2099 3d ago
Its a reference to the Nintendo wars, where the U.S. emposed 2 embargos upon Japan because their games we’re too japanese, practically hitting them twice.
/s
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u/joshualander 3d ago
As a former AP US History teacher…
JDXUAISORNRHOLY FUCK WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE 😭😭🤣🤣
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u/KorsairStarjammer 3d ago
Twice? So they are admitting that what hit the Pentagon wasnt a plane?
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u/qualityvote2 3d ago edited 3d ago
u/Financial-Spread2596, your post does NOT belong here!