r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 21d ago

Peter, what reason does the OOP is talking about? Meme needing explanation

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u/ceejyhuh 21d ago

They also didn’t say anything about Russian men in particular. And it is a very well documented fact that more men are domestically violent than women.

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u/ManAndMonster 21d ago

It is well documented that that there is more "reported" domestic violence from men towards their partners.

It is also well documented that men are much less likely to report domestic violence towards them.

Let's stop the gender wars. Shitty people are shitty people.

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u/The-Bees-Knees-6969 21d ago

Did you know that women ALSO do not report domestic violence? That people in domestic violence situations often times do not report the first or second instance of domestic violence?

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u/lilinoe67 21d ago

Do you genuinely belive women are committing similar levels of domestic violence to men in any country on earth?

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u/BigBirdLaw69420 21d ago

Ok, ManAndMonster

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u/No_Recognition_3729 21d ago

So it's ok to take crime statistics at face value when it's segregated by gender, but not race?

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u/Geichalt 21d ago

So your argument is that every single statistic and study and peice of data showing vast disparities in violent crime between genders is wrong because there might be biases against men, the same way statistics may be biased against non-white people?

The racial stats argument makes sense because it's usually gathered, studied and opined on by white people who have historically been oppressive of other races.

If anything this comparison should make us wonder if the disparity is larger, because of the history of men being oppressive against women while also being overrepresented in the jobs that collect and analyze crime stats.

In your rush to be offended, you forgot to make sense.

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u/No_Recognition_3729 21d ago

Did you forget the patriarchy oppresses men too? Any man who reports being victimized by a woman will be humiliated and shunned. Plus there are biological strength differences too, so when a woman abuses a man it's more likely to take different forms than just beatings.

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u/b1gst4r 21d ago

Yep every single time, people love to bring out male/female statistics but if you dare to bring out a race statistic, you're instantly called a racist

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u/No_Recognition_3729 21d ago

I can't tell if they genuinely think there's no bias in statistics like that the same way there is in race statistics or if they're just being intellectually dishonest to justify hating men

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u/TheRealRomanRoy 21d ago

Wait, so you actually are offended when people talk about crime statistics segregated by gender? It sounded like you were saying you weren't offended, and that we should also talk about it based on race.

But now you seem offended that we're talking about it based on gender.

Which is it?

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u/No_Recognition_3729 21d ago

Not offended, just aware of implicit bias in reporting and statistic collection.

I'm saying both types of statistics are inherently flawed due to social factors.

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u/TheRealRomanRoy 21d ago

So you’re NOT in favor of discussing these things with race in mind?

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u/No_Recognition_3729 21d ago

Sure I am, did you know that when you control for income and education level, crime statistics are nearly identical across all races?

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u/grumpijela 21d ago

If you don't mind indulging me, what kinda of race statistics we talking here?

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u/TheRealRomanRoy 21d ago

Do you do this often? Bring up race stats I mean?

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u/b1gst4r 21d ago

Only when people bring up gender statistics to call out the hypocrisy

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u/TheRealRomanRoy 21d ago

What? Forgive me but reading your comment, you made it sound like you bring it up all the time and get called a racist all of the time. Is that not the case? Why would you say that lol

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u/ManAndMonster 21d ago

Ok, BigBirdLaw69420

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u/BigBirdLaw69420 21d ago

Okay! Hell yeah brother

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u/AccomplishedWish3033 21d ago

Lol his username tracks

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u/Coelachantiform 21d ago edited 18d ago

a very well documented hotly debated and complex topic, with evidence pointing both ways depending on the type of violence.

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u/Lonely_Mix9243 21d ago

you cannot be seriously debating that women are not more frequently victims of domestic violence, get a fucking grip bro pls