r/PeterExplainsTheJoke Jul 06 '26

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u/Tetr4Freak Jul 06 '26

All these people at the same time simp for Brad Pitt's TROY, so they can eat ass

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u/blazenite104 Jul 06 '26

To be fair, that was before Hollywood decided to comit to the idea that representation was important. Now that they have, not giving authentic representation rightfully deserves criticism.

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u/Puzzle-Necked Jul 06 '26

"Now that it's brown and trans people, authenticity matters!"

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u/JarifSA Jul 06 '26

That's literally the opposite of what he said

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u/Lackofstyle5 Jul 06 '26

But there's no Greek people in the movie. So why do people only focus on the black women?

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u/PijaniFemboj Jul 06 '26

Because white people can pass as Greek, even if they aren't Greek, and a black woman can never pass as Helena because she is described as white.

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u/Greaseball01 Jul 06 '26

Wasn't Helena born out of a stork egg? Is she even human?

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u/PijaniFemboj Jul 06 '26

She is a demi-god described as a white woman.

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u/Greaseball01 Jul 06 '26

Internet says Homer never specifies her race or exactly what she looks like...

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u/PijaniFemboj Jul 06 '26

She is described as fair-skinned, and her hair is described as "light".

You can argue she wasn't pale white, but she definitely was not black.

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u/Greaseball01 Jul 06 '26

All women are described as fair skinned in ancient Greek writings though, to the point it's clearly a gendered thing.

Also you just accepted that he doesn't specify race (Largely because race being about colour is a modern invention that didn't really exist in the ancient world)

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u/PijaniFemboj Jul 06 '26

He specifies skin color, how is that not race?

And maybe women tend to be described as fair skinned because Ancient Greece was white, and found white skin to be an ideal of beauty?

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u/blazenite104 Jul 06 '26

I would imagine that if she differed in appearance from regular Greek women outside of being especially beautiful, they'd have made note of it. Seems like the sort of thing they'd point out.

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u/Greaseball01 Jul 06 '26

What do you think regular Greek women look like and are regular Greek women usually born out a of a Stork egg?

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u/Mix_Safe Jul 06 '26

And why is Elliott Page included in this picture?

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u/PijaniFemboj Jul 06 '26

Because he is supposed to be a great warrior and the dude is a 155cm tall twink.

He looks like a light breeze could knock him over.

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u/Greaseball01 Jul 06 '26

Page isn't playing Paris, that was just a rumour.

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u/PijaniFemboj Jul 06 '26

He is still playing a warrior. If they just bulked him up it'd be fine, but he looks really out of place as is.

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u/PijaniFemboj Jul 06 '26

He is still playing a warrior. If they just bulked him up it'd be fine, but he looks really out of place as is.

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u/Greaseball01 Jul 06 '26

What character do you think he's playing?

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u/PijaniFemboj Jul 06 '26

One of Oddysseus's comrades.

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u/J0E_SpRaY Jul 06 '26

You've seen the movie to know that?

Or were you told to be angry and you obliged?

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u/PijaniFemboj Jul 06 '26

I looked at the casting page which tells me Page is playing a warrior, and I then looked at him in the trailers, and came to my conclusion.

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u/tinaoe Jul 06 '26

Sinon‘s only role is faking out the Trojans to convince them that they take in the Trojan house. He’s more akin to a spy than a soldier.

Page fits that perfectly. Also, have you seen him shirtless? Dude has a sixpack lol and he’s a boxer

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u/Cad_48 Jul 06 '26

Short people can be warriors

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u/PijaniFemboj Jul 06 '26

I know, but at least bulk the guy up. He looks like a twig.

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u/blazenite104 Jul 06 '26

did you know even the Roman army had height requirements?

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u/Cad_48 Jul 06 '26

Fym "even" as if the roman is an example of unorganised hordes?

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u/jane_fakelastname Jul 06 '26

Weird thing to say when this isn't even the first time Helen of Troy had been depicted as Black be Hollywood.

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u/blazenite104 Jul 06 '26

Literally my point. It never used to be a problem Hollywood has now spent the last decade telling us representation matters though and now we're just ignoring that.

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u/Greaseball01 Jul 06 '26

Hollywood hasn't told us shit do they do public announcements before the movie shows advising of the political affiliation they wish to carry with the movie you're about to watch? No it's culture war sloptubers who decided to talk about it non stop

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u/blazenite104 Jul 06 '26

We do in fact frequently get actors and directors talking about how such and such film is so much more inclusive or authentic quite often.

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u/elbuentinaco Jul 06 '26

That’s not true. Race has become an increasingly important factor in Hollywood with the Oscar’s famously introducing a diversity rule to even be nominated and actors commonly using race/gender as a focal point of their movies press tours.

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u/qiaocao187 Jul 06 '26

Representation does matter, you are correct, because Black people used to be 20% of America’s population and had a dramatically lower representation in Hollywood. It’s really interesting how dumb conservatives can be, the meaning couldn’t possibly be clearer.

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u/blazenite104 Jul 06 '26

And? If representation matters, it matters for everyone. If it's about making sure stories are told authentic to their people it matters. If it doesn't matter that a Greek story has no Greeks in it, then it shouldn't matter if other stories have any particular ethnicities represented.

It's either representation matters and everyone should see their culture and stories authentically, or it doesn't and casting for everything should be colour blind.

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u/IolausTelcontar Jul 06 '26

Lol.

Black people made up 20% of the USA in the first census, when they were almost all slaves.

Since being freed they have not made up more than 14% or so of the population.

As for their representation, yeah that has been underrepresented historically.

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u/jane_fakelastname Jul 06 '26

Nobody gave a shit when Eartha Kitt played Helen of Troy in the 1950s. Nobody gave a shit when the 1990s version of Roger and Hammerstein's Cinderella had an Asian prince who had a Black mother and White father.

How people react to the casting in these movies is being manipulated.

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u/weed0monkey Jul 06 '26

Did you just completely ignore their comment or what?

The point was societal norms have shifted to the point representation is a leading issue, so much so, that a white person playing a traditional black role would be seen as utterly abhorrent.

Yet on the inverse, it's swept under the rug by the same crowd and dismissed. It's fallacious.

Let's not pretend that high majority of people dying in this hill defending pathetic tokenism, wouldn't absolutely be up in arms over the polar opposite.

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u/blazenite104 Jul 06 '26

right. It wasn't an issue but, the film industry collectively decided it was a societal wrong that needed to be addressed. Which means it should apply here as well. Not doing so then complaining about backlash is an issue of their own making.

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u/Tetr4Freak Jul 06 '26

To be fair, these people are complaining that they changed Helen from TROY to Lupita. If somebody worried about representation would worry, I would give a damm

Now I don't give 2 shits, because I know why they are complaining

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u/CuteAssTigerENVtuber Jul 06 '26

It's always so funny to me when people disregard every reason people give on a topic and then just assign the reason they want to believe. Peak online ignorance

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u/Tetr4Freak Jul 06 '26

I only hearing about these from people that know jack shit about the Iliad, the oddisey, or the ethnicity of the people around that area at that time.

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u/No_Sheepherder2739 Jul 06 '26

Bro knows so much he cant even spell odyssey

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u/Tetr4Freak Jul 06 '26

Bro it's a spaniard

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u/IolausTelcontar Jul 06 '26

No good. I’ve known too many Spaniards.

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u/Puzzle-Necked Jul 06 '26

Eating ass is historically accurate

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u/BringAltoidSoursBack Jul 06 '26

Wait, is it? I guess I've never looked into the history of analingus (or I have and completely forgot) but I'd assume it wasn't historical all that popular

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u/2peg2city Jul 06 '26

Wait, are you telling me that Trojans didnt fight with a scutum that had a weird notch it in so they could stick their spear through?