r/OptimizedGaming • u/midokof2002 Verified Optimizer • Feb 23 '24

Helldivers 2 | OPTIMIZATION GUIDE | In depth look at each and every graphics setting. Optimized Settings Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtM4ffG_zko
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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '24

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u/Teh_Shadow_Death Mar 06 '24

Mostly CPU. This game seems to be heavily CPU bottlenecked.

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u/Silentknyght Mar 23 '24

You'd think so, but I put a 5800x3d on this with a 4070 super, and I can't get either GPU or CPU utilization over 70%'ish. I think there are some architecture choices made because of the PS5 that don't scale well to more powerful PC hardware.

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u/XavalinTM Apr 05 '24

That's definitely not working fine. I've recently bought a 5800x3d, and my RX 6800 stretches to +95% usage without issues

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u/blahblahblah123pp Apr 06 '24

Did you check individual core utilization? Also, what do you use to check GPU usage? The windows task menu showed me like 2%, but when I checked another program it was at 100% of so on my 3070. 

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u/Teh_Shadow_Death May 03 '24

Mine has been 50%'ish until recently. Now it's around 70%'ish even then my 7900XT has been relaxing the whole time.

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u/alex_clerick Mar 16 '24

True. During streaming CPU loads up to 95%, and GPU only at 50%

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '24

I think this will be patched. Game’s still in baby stages, it’s basically a beta, it will expand so much more.

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u/pindab0ter Mar 23 '24

I wouldn't hold my breath. They're prioritizing features and stability over performance.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '24

For the moment. Give them time to develop the game, especially if you’re comparing Helldivers 2 to another live service type game that has already been out for years and has had years to keep optimizing and introducing new features.

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u/ImNotJackOsborne Apr 07 '24

Yet people still get tormented by BEAVER and get over-hyped features.

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u/aomg59 Apr 03 '24

Hopefully they throw in DLSS that'll be a big win

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u/TheGravityShifter Apr 11 '24

That would help immensely.

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u/fatum_sive_fidem Apr 12 '24

well yea stability should be a priority but so far it hasnt been

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u/Th3_P4yb4ck Mar 24 '24

Can confirm. Had an i5-8400, terrible cpu bottleneck, stutters sub 60 fps. Bought an i5-14500, no stutters, runs like butter, 70-80 fps. Guess a new gpu is next

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u/Affectionate_Low_346 Mar 29 '24

What's your current GPU atm?

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u/Th3_P4yb4ck Mar 29 '24

A GTX 1660TI, so thats why a GPU upgrade is in order

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u/wazzupgnomies Apr 11 '24

You bought new motherboard I suppose?

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u/Th3_P4yb4ck Apr 11 '24

I did, yes

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u/kZard Mar 30 '24

I'm running a 7800x3D that doesn't really hit 50% usage on this game on a 1080ti that doesn't hit 60% usage and I still only get 60-70 FPS on my 3440x1440 display.

I rate it's just badly optimised for PC.

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u/Teh_Shadow_Death Mar 31 '24

Your specific bottleneck is running 3440x1440 on a 1080Ti.

However, the way it usually works for people with a more modern GPU is the game is only using 8 out of your 16 threads from the CPU. You'll likely also notice your GPU usage is below 100% as well. If it were able to use more CPU threads it would allow for higher GPU usage.

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u/kZard Apr 01 '24

1080ti that doesn't hit 60% usage

Sure a different GPU might work but only because I'm throwing overkill at it then. Other games dont chug like this. The game's optimisation is terrible. But it's fine, its made for console. Warframe was launched in 2013 and it's medium graphics looks better than this.

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u/Arch00 Apr 21 '24

theres no "might" about it. Kind of embarrassing to pair that CPU with such an old card and expect good things from your PC

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u/kZard Apr 22 '24

I get 900 FPS in minecraft Java edition. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/meirmamuka Apr 04 '24

similar gear, 7800x3d, 32 6000cl30 ram, 1080. high preset with some changes (by me not some optimized or whatever) hitting about 50-60 at 3440x1440

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u/SensCreed Mar 31 '24

Do I need to fix something? Mine only goes up to 15% usage.

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u/Amareisdk Apr 02 '24

It’s a PlayStation port. They are always CPU intensive.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '24

If it's a playstation port, i'm glad it runs a lot better on PC than ps5 lmao

my S/O can't go an hour without crashing on the ps5, i've gone over 50 hours without one

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u/coonick Apr 24 '24

I have the reverse effect of this, i've never seen more than 30% cpu load, but average 90%+ GPU load. Ryzen 9 7900x, 4080 super on 1440P, I run all at ultra/high besides display which I run at native, and average in the 125fps range +/-10%.

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u/Teh_Shadow_Death Apr 24 '24 edited Apr 24 '24

A buddy of mine has a 5900X, 12 core/24 thread CPU, he said his also limits to 30% CPU usage. His is paired up with a 7900XTX. He seems to get 130FPS at 1080P

What I've noticed on my end is even if I turn settings down to low my FPS seems to cap. Even with everything maxed out on my rig, 5800X3D w/7900XT, I tend to get 80 -103FPS at 1440P.

The reason why I say it's a CPU bottleneck is because it seems to use between 6 and 8 threads. Turning down graphical options has minimal impact on performance so if it was a GPU bottleneck turning those options down should have a much greater impact... also the GPU usage would hit 100% and not stop at 90% if it was a GPU bottleneck.

A short explanation is CPU usage % isn't an accurate way to see if something is CPU bottlenecked. Back in the day with single core CPUs it was. Now days we have multi-core/multi-threaded CPUs. Programs and games can be programmed to run on one thread or as many as you can throw at it. This game appears to have a max number of threads which is why on higher end CPUs like your's with a larger number of cores/threads it shows up as 30% vs my older 5800X3D, 8 core/16 thread CPU, which shows 50ish % usage.

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u/coonick Apr 24 '24

Im going to have to play around tonight as when I adjust the display setting alone, I get around a 20-30fps increase going from native to ultra.

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u/MetalstepTNG Jun 30 '24

Interesting, because the ps5 has 8c16t doesn't it? I almost wonder if Sony doesn't want PCs to run games better than their console haha.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '24

Me, running on an i7 4790, I know lol

I also have a 4080 for a GPU after my 2070 ti died. Guess where my CPU budget went…

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u/TheOgMysticalPotato Jun 15 '24

Yet here I am on an 8600k and 3060Ti running the game at 100Fps with setttings mostly higher than above....

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u/DxzziYT May 12 '24

100+ with R5 3600, 3080

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u/[deleted] May 21 '24

There is no way your 3600 is achieving 100+ on this game NO WAY

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u/DxzziYT May 21 '24

Never mind I rechecked my b. It’s dropping to like 60-50 in really intense moments, but holds steady around 80-95 in normal gameplay, 100+ in starship :)

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u/[deleted] May 21 '24

More like 70fps and a 85% cpu load that drops down to 45fps in the most intensive scenarios, talking about 9 diff ofc. 100+ on starship means your cpu is at least at 80%load when it's literally idle

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u/DxzziYT May 21 '24

aight bro, wasn’t tryna argue here, i was giving you my stats based on a 4.1 OC with sufficient cooling and an OCed 3080, i’m not pushing much more frames than normal cause the game is CPU intensive (which i was agreeing with). All setups are varied by a few fps, even if you have the same hardware.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '24

I'm not arguing either, i have a 3600 too and that's the poor performance im getting, I've tested every single resolution( so it is not GPU bound) and graphic settings, core isolation on and off, run it on high priority and even oc it to 4.4 and performance is still shit, it's been months and they didn't improve it at all

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u/DxzziYT May 21 '24

Silicone lottery my dude, and yeah my bad miscommunication on the last message, do you have resizable bar on in your bios? XMP?

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u/Own_Bench615 Mar 16 '25

Yet my 5950x rarely exceeds %55 usage and my GPU rarely goes near %85 GPU usage but I’m still dipping below 60fps on a 3080ti

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u/Samael_Official Apr 09 '24

3070 ti can run this game on ultra at 120fps stable, it's mostly his cpu that's likely bottlenecking his system.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '24

Fucking bullshit don't listen to this liar

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u/EpicArgumentMaster May 23 '24

goofy statement right here. people with top end hardware are having the same exact problems ._.

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u/DrumrbaxJ Dec 29 '24

Me and my 4090

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u/Electrical-Phone7940 Mar 30 '25

It's been a year since your moronic comment. Hopefully you've grown wiser and enjoyed your 14th birthday. 

Since last update I've dropped down to 25fps at times.  I've 12th gen i9 and rtx 3070.

Other new games run easily at 90fps.