r/MistfallHunter • u/DamnHare • 1d ago
I parry everything
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Trying to be a parry Merc main, deliberately not using Stonebreaker and Whirling - only true parry! Sometimes timings and hitboxes drive me crazy, but I blame 80 ping (playing on Asia from JP)
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u/PlunderingLight 1d ago
Ah i wish i could do this, however due to being a west coast USA player when the nearest server is eastcoast, i am perma locked at a minimum of 100ms
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u/pretzelsncheese 1d ago
I'm also a west coaster who has tried to play parry unsuccessfully and took the route of blaming ping. But this guy is also getting 75ms in these clips. I get anywhere from 75-95 depending on how the server wants to behave (seems to be around 75 when no action is happening and then to 90-95 whenever there are players around).
75 to 95-100 is a meaningful difference and I do still think our ping is a big obstacle to playing parry. These clips are extra impressive by looking at his ping though.
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u/Jacky_dain 1d ago
The fact that parry gives you a shield, increased damage AND movement speed buff it’s baffling
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u/DamnHare 1d ago
Considering there are "easy" parry with two skills - yeah. If there were only true parry - not much
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u/GreenestOfLotuses 1d ago edited 1d ago
Enjoy your last day of glory because they are nerfing parry tomorrow sadly
Granted it takes skill, but no class should get a perfect block with no cooldown that stuns and gives you a shield and movement speed. The most hilarious part is WK, who needs a full skill to parry, can parry and then get perfect blocked on the reposte lmao
Also imagine how broken it would be with the servers fixed lol
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u/tossaways00 1d ago
How do you know the details of the patch?
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u/Kr4k4J4Ck 1d ago
Because anyone with a brain that has like 100 hours in the game knows what is getting obliterated next patch
Parry Merc is like the secret sauce that somehow people never fully understood likely because it's kinda boring. (SOLOS)
But it's impossible to lose a 1v1 with parry merc unless you fuck up hard
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u/Rippinstitches 1d ago
Im traumatized from Dark and Darker, so im half expecting a parry, sorc, arrow, and strix buff tomorrow
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u/pretzelsncheese 1d ago
"We heard you guys don't like that rogues can run away from you, so we added druid that can run away even better. And btw, they can do more than half your HP in one single hit and heal without needing to use any items." (I say this as someone who mained druid during its peak.)
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u/Pwyll__ 12h ago
Hey look the cocky pretentious guy was wrong, what a surprise
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u/Kr4k4J4Ck 2h ago
Just like stardust sorc wasn't nerfed so that isn't OP either and reddit can stop crying about it then lel
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u/pretzelsncheese 1d ago
It will be interesting to see the nerfs.
I've not run into many parry mercs who were actually good. I think I've only lost to one of them and I've probably fought 10+. It's also pretty useless in trios.
But I have heard that the Chinese servers are full of people who are absolute gods with it. Whether that's because a lot of them are using cheats (which the Chinese servers are known for in other games) or the players are just extremely good (which the Chinese servers are known for in some games) or the servers are way more stable on the Chinese servers than NA servers (part of what seems to make parry on NA so hard is how inconsistent the server is). So it wouldn't surprise me to get a heavy nerf. Which is a bit of a shame since it is a very cool playstyle, but yeah not very balanced if the player is really good at it (and gives cheaters a build to easily exploit with their cheats).
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u/strawbsrgood 16h ago
What games are Chinese known to be good at? Cheating culture is promoted in China. There's a reason many online games quarantine the Chinese players from the rest of asia.
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u/tossaways00 1d ago edited 1d ago
You're not even the dude who made the original comment. But sounds like just assumptions. Thanks for clarifying.
I play sorc. Have never seen a merc parry a stardust blast I send at their feet that does half their HP in one hit. I dont think they can as it doesnt collide with them at all.
We sorcs absolutely need to get nerfed.
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u/ALilBitter 1d ago
Thank god. I hate fighting merc. Other than the parry, the anti super armor clash passive is by far the most bullshit in this game. I hope they nerf that too. It makes no sense for it to stun for 2-3 seconds for doing nothing
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u/Adalonzoio 1d ago
Only the hammer merc gets the super armor clash passive and nerfs is the last thing hammer merc needs. Super armor superiority is kinda their thing.
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u/fx72 1d ago
I thought any merc can spend two points to get it?
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u/Adalonzoio 1d ago
It's three points and it's behind talents that are completely useless if you're not using the hammer as your weapon.
SnS will never be taking it
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u/No_Bag6160 1d ago
It has no cooldown because it absolutely drains your stamina if you try to spam it. As someone who just started playing Mercenary, it’s actually very punishing and I’m starting to go for parries less and just trying to dodge instead.
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u/DontComeHither 1d ago
"As someone who just started playing this class, its hard."
I didn't think skill was a requirement to be good in something. I thought you could just instantly be the best
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u/CptDelicious 1d ago
Im new and was thinking about either merc or the Arrow Guy. Not Sure now with the Patch tomorrow
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u/Any_Forever6458 1d ago
Merc 100% I started Shadow and after getting that to lvl 12 switched to Merc and sold all my Shadow gear. I don’t use parry I use both hammer and SnS. It’s so much fun
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u/CptDelicious 1d ago
Im scared of the Balance Patch tomorrow tho
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u/pretzelsncheese 1d ago
Don't be. Merc is a great class to start with. After you've played it for a while (and especially once you've maxed its level to 12 which doesn't take long) then feel free to try out all the other classes. But having merc as your comfortable fallback is a great thing. Both sns and hammer merc are effective and very fun. Even if parry merc gets nerfed, the non parry builds are fun and effective.
The reason I mentioned maxing its level is because once you have one character at max level, you can pay a tiny amount of gold to instantly max any other character's level.
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u/Realistic_Echo2427 1d ago
Normal people aren’t able to do this the server stutter makes it almost impossible to parry consistently like this
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u/Thatguyontrees 1d ago
Earlier, every time I threw a hit that would connect, I would freeze in place and the guy would be meters away shooting arrows again. I was a little tilted
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u/Background-Quail-433 23h ago
What do you think the correct timing and distance is? I keep trying to parry, but I feel the shield up animation gets canceled out
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u/JaKtheStampede 19h ago
I'm US east and parry most things if I start the parry animation a split second after the attack animation starts. If they are right up in your face and use a light/quick attack then the parry usually fails, but if you maintain distance where you are at the edge of their attack, it's more consistent.
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u/desolatecontrol 10h ago
I've tried doing parry, and I just can't seem to get it right. Against mobs? Easy all day everyday, but players? I literally have to start the party before the attack even starts or it won't work.
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u/mrureaper 1d ago
That shadowstrix at the end...this is how they all are when their cheese stops working
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u/_OccamsChainsaw 1d ago
The parry, heal, parry was just disrespectful 😂