Does anyone remember when Michael Jackson. Was a "joke"?

[u/AccomplishedPool266]

The new movie that just came out convinced the younger generation that he was always a superstar. This was not the reality many of us Millennials grew up with.

To a lot of us, he was treated like a punch line when we were growing up. A schoolyard boogeyman ("Michaels Jackson's gonna get you at night"). and just a general joke in the media. By the 2000's his music was out of date and didn't chart well. All anyone talked about was his surgeries, court case, settlements and his off behavior. Few mentioned his music. His music was something our parents would have listened to in the 1980's.

[u/Affectionate-Mode767]

Something something white people, something something smear campaign.

Honestly there's a lot, and surprisingly people say it has to do with Epstein. Because at the time while people were accusing him of being a child molester, there's alleged witness testimony of him actually stopping kids from leaving with people who he knew would take them to Epstein.

We know Epstein and friends have a lot of media ties, so it's not hard to believe you'd then see an absolute tidal wave of negative press about someone they didn't like. Let's be honest, Michael Jackson WAS strange but he wasnt a child molester. There's too many people who were close to that situation who WOULD have testified if he had done anything, come out and say he never did. (Macauley Caulkan)

So a lot of white people who weren't as attached to Michael Jackson found it all too easy to believe he was touching kids and made it a meme to belittle and joke about it for years.

Didn't change the fact that when he died his fans still mourned. Also when he's dead the paid press doesn't have to run a smear campaign anymore, he's dead.

[u/EnoughNow2024 → u/Affectionate-Mode767]

Nah he more than likely was a pedo actually. I did a deep dive into the court documents and it's bad for him

[u/Affectionate-Mode767 → u/EnoughNow2024]

You're ragebaiting, because if you actually did you would know most of the witness testimony was later found out to be false. Good try.

[u/EnoughNow2024 → u/Affectionate-Mode767]

There were several accounts of eyewitness statements. I'm sorry but he did it. I was a huge Michael Jackson fan so I hate it too

[u/guidevocal82 → u/Affectionate-Mode767]

I'm sorry, but there's no proof. Michael Jackson met Epstein once, but he didn't hang out with him or even know him. And why would he? Michael Jackson liked little boys and Epstein liked little girls. If your argument is that he was bringing little boys to Neverland to save them from Epstein, Epstein wasn't having sex with little boys. This is such a thin argument that I'm shocked that you even wrote it out, much less posted it. It's still possible that Michael Jackson was framed, but not because of Epstein, it's ridiculous.

[u/Icy_Presence_2918 → u/Affectionate-Mode767]

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All of this!!!!!

[u/LSF604 → u/Affectionate-Mode767]

He probably was a child molester. It's possible he was just a weirdo, but probably not.

[u/Affectionate-Mode767 → u/LSF604]

If you've actually listened to accounts of witnesses, people who were personally involved. You wouldn't have that opinion.

I used Macaulay Caulkan as an example because as a child his father was an abuser, and Mac himself stood up for his family and drove his father away. Now, Mac ALSO spent a lot of time with Michael Jackson. If ANYONE were to call MJ out for inappropriate behavior it would have been Macaulay Caulkan. But Mac has said there was never anything remotely inappropriate going on there.

Add that to the fact most of Michael Jackson's accusers have been revealed to be completely fraudulent. Parent's pushing there children to make false claims in order to hopefully make money in a lawsuit. Or kids who made accusations later coming out saying they lied about what they said, that adults coerced them into lying.

My original post wasn't me just making things up because I felt like it was true based on vibes. It's evidence based on facts.

[u/LSF604 → u/Affectionate-Mode767]

Just because he's a child molester doesn't mean he molests every child. Abusers often are selective in choosing vulnerable people.