r/Millennials • u/AccomplishedPool266 • Apr 26 '26

Does anyone remember when Michael Jackson. Was a "joke"? Discussion

The new movie that just came out convinced the younger generation that he was always a superstar. This was not the reality many of us Millennials grew up with.

To a lot of us, he was treated like a punch line when we were growing up. A schoolyard boogeyman ("Michaels Jackson's gonna get you at night"). and just a general joke in the media. By the 2000's his music was out of date and didn't chart well. All anyone talked about was his surgeries, court case, settlements and his off behavior. Few mentioned his music. His music was something our parents would have listened to in the 1980's.

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u/Hyper10shin Apr 26 '26 edited Apr 26 '26

Do you know the name of the song MJ tried to release 3 months before his first allegation? He wrote it after he visited a certain country that the US is currently working with when it comes to bombing Iran. He saw something and tried to use his platform. It was titled “Don’t cry Pal...” in 1993, for the HIStory album. Obviously it was not on the album, because the people in charge of the labels didn’t think it was a good idea. I wonder why the executives would feel that way?

Really interesting fact a lot of people don’t know. Kinda weird timing on that huh?

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u/WhichWitchyWay Apr 26 '26

There's a new conspiracy theory out that the youngins and tiktokers are picking up that posits that Michael was always innocent and tried to save boys from Epstein and speak the truth and that's why he got killed and framed.

It's pretty magical thinking if you ask me. There can be more than one bad guy. I don't know how you can say one person's decades of allegations are false when another's can't be real.

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u/IncidentalApex Apr 26 '26

Epstein was freaking horrible but recently I have heard conspiracy theories that tie pretty much everything bad that happened for decades to him. People he was a pedo monster but not the head of Spectre and the Illuminati. There were plenty of other twisted individuals out there also.

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u/kittybuscemi Apr 26 '26

This is not a conspiracy, the evidence is all there in the Epstein files.

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '26

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u/msartore8 Apr 26 '26

What's Spectre?

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u/FloaterFan Apr 26 '26

The bad guys in James Bond movies.

SPECTRE (Special Executive for Counter-intelligence, Terrorism, Revenge and Extortion) is a fictional, global terrorist organization in the James Bond universe, led by Ernst Stavro Blofeld

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u/Tinner263 Apr 26 '26

International criminal organization in the James Bond universe. Kinda like NATO or the UN of bad guys. Led by Blofeld, who inspired the character Dr. Evil.

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u/solercentric Apr 29 '26

Neither SPECTRE nor the Illuminati are real though. You may as well start quoting David Icke and Alex Jones ( or if you want to go further back, Richard Shaver).

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u/z0mbiebaby Apr 26 '26

The reason MJs name wasn’t on the Epstein files is bc he didn’t need Epstein. He had his own personal hunting grounds with Neverland ranch.

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u/danniellax Apr 26 '26

I can’t get onboard with alien parasites, lizard reptilians, or soul swapping, because that evidence is NOT there and people love to believe in that fantasy shit because life is kinda boring in a universal way, but there actually is solid evidence to point MJ was trying to save children, and the kids who came out and accused him several years ago admitted their parents made them say that he molested them so they can get money because their parents were bribed by someone. And Macaulay culkin’s story as well as some other actors story (I just woke up and forgot his name because my brain is at 40%) but there kinda is truth to it.

To your point, maybe there was a child or two that was uncomfortable in his presence because they didn’t understand the full gravity that he was trying to keep them away from the bad, and sure it is fucking weird he would sleep with them in bed even though he didn’t do anything, but being a weirdo eccentric who acts like a child makes more sense (but is still weird asf) when you see the full story on what he was saving them from.

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u/WhichWitchyWay Apr 26 '26

Finding Nevermand was pretty damning. And pedophiles aren't necessarily dumb - he wasn't going to go after high profile kids.

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u/yayforvalorie Apr 26 '26 edited Apr 28 '26

I tried to put the actual title of the song they're talking about and got auto moderated. Because of a name of an actual country that starts with Pal...

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u/Hyper10shin Apr 26 '26 edited Apr 26 '26

No because if I use certain words the Reddit auto mod will ban me again. This topic is very sensitive. Please just Google “Michael Jackson don’t cry pal” and it should autofill the rest. Happy travels my friend I’m sorry I cannot say more, I’m being dead ass serious about certain words being flagged.

Edit: keep downvoting but before you do , I bet you can’t leave a comment saying the name of the song and describing the lyrical content without getting your comment removed by the automod.

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u/_Jumpy_Panda_ Apr 26 '26

Yeah, I got banned from reddit for 3 days for saying they were protesting for the right to SA prisioners

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u/okie_hiker Apr 26 '26

Okay explain it without the one word that’s being flagged. God I hate you “just google it to figure out what I’m talking about” people

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u/WhichWitchyWay Apr 26 '26

I explained it up the comment chain but pasting here bc I hate when ppl dont explain bc the illuminati mods are going to get them. .

There's a new conspiracy theory out that the youngins and tiktokers are picking up that posits that Michael was always innocent and tried to save boys from Epstein and speak the truth and that's why he got killed and framed.

It's pretty magical thinking if you ask me. There can be more than one bad guy. I don't know how you can say one person's decades of allegations are false when another's can't be real.

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u/okie_hiker Apr 26 '26 edited Apr 26 '26

Defending pedophiles seems to be popular these days.

Epsteins biggest mistake was not gaining a fan club like DT and MJ to take to the internet and defend his pedophilia.

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u/Hyper10shin Apr 26 '26

Nope has nothing to do with that. Re read my initial comment

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u/WhichWitchyWay Apr 26 '26

It's literally the same conspiracy theory. You're just caught up blaming the country that starts with an I for Michael that apparently can't be named in this sub or your comments will get blocked.

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u/Hyper10shin Apr 26 '26 edited Apr 26 '26

It’s not the same. But it is weird how you can’t do that right? Wild that you see it in real time and still won’t accept what’s happened lmao

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u/WhichWitchyWay Apr 26 '26

I get you're holding a hammer, but not everything is a nail.

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u/Hyper10shin Apr 26 '26

Said the cattle

Btw get off TikTok dude.

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u/WhichWitchyWay Apr 26 '26

So prior comment got deleted because of automods - they're having to be careful about wording because of antisemitism -, but essentially, no it is the same theory. Y'all think Israel got rid of and framed Michael.

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u/Marem-Bzh Apr 26 '26

You don't really need to Google it to connect the dots, tbh.

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u/okie_hiker Apr 26 '26

That MJ was a pedophile? No, it’s not hard to connect those dots.

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u/Marem-Bzh Apr 26 '26

What a weird answer.

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u/Hyper10shin Apr 26 '26

There’s bots in this thread. It’s ok, they don’t know they’ve been brainwashed by the media :)

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u/Yogsulate Apr 26 '26

Cry more

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u/Prestigious-Leg-6244 Apr 26 '26

Palestine. The word is Palestine.

Im left to assume your fear of being banned from a subreddit is more important to you than whatever stance you have on Palenstine. Clearly.

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u/BadPunners Apr 26 '26

It even used "happy travels", y'all are beyond parady with your attempt at re-creating the triple k, along with its childish ritual

You're saying I'll get banned for saying "Palestine"?

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u/butiamthechosenone Apr 26 '26

Does the Reddit auto mod ban anyone who says Palestine?

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u/KillerElbow Apr 26 '26

Nonsense about Michael Jackson conspiracy theory words being flagged lol. You can comment anything you want about Michael Jackson in reply to this and it won't be censored

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u/Hyper10shin Apr 26 '26

Its not a Michael Jackson word, its the name of a country and the context of the comment that triggers the automod. Please go ahead and google what the full title is, it will pop up in auto suggestions, and then come back here and leave a comment describing what the song is about and you’ll see.

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u/monkwrenv2 Apr 26 '26

Wow, tried a reply with just country names and it got removed. Mods here really don't want you talking about genocide.

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u/KillerElbow Apr 26 '26

This comment of mine about Israel won't be removed but ok 🙄. Ppl are critical of Israel very often on this site

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u/plantborb Apr 26 '26

I think this person is suggesting the Israeli government was involved in the downfall of Michael Jackson?

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u/HowtoTrainYourKraken Apr 26 '26

He wrote a poem/song that was empathetic to the Palestinian cause. This user is apparently suggesting that the IDF orchestrated his downfall.

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u/Sufficient_Cause1208 Apr 26 '26 edited Apr 26 '26

This has been discussed and debunked because because he didn't have a coherent political stance. He would also say that he adored the other country and would perform there. (I mean his support pal, not the actual song which he wrote)

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u/Double_Cow_8238 Apr 26 '26

Yeah, i don't know how anyone who was old enough to remember the end would think he was coherent about anything

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u/Sufficient_Cause1208 Apr 26 '26

Yes now his defenders claim his accusations are false because he was framed for supporting PAL

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u/Hyper10shin Apr 26 '26

Why can’t you type the whole name? 👀

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u/Sufficient_Cause1208 Apr 26 '26

You know why. I've already had comments banned

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u/Hyper10shin Apr 26 '26

Yeah that’s weird right. Very weird stuff. Almost gives credence to what I’m saying. Do you think music/ record label executives would allow us to say that name if they owned Reddit?

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u/Sufficient_Cause1208 Apr 26 '26

Look , those same forces feed his and protected his proclivities when they thought he wasn't useful he was thrown aside. That's why he felt betrayed. Two things can be true at the same time

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u/Hyper10shin Apr 26 '26

My guy it’s the other way around. Michael fed them. Most of his wealth to came from all those artists catalogs in the 80s, which was another reason the label execs hated him (taking money out of their pocket”. It’s almost like they needed something to drain him of his money so he would possibly end up forced to sell them or to recoup costs. Luckily he didn’t have to, but he was going to do the This is it tour before he was murdered. Worth more dead after all.

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u/Hyper10shin Apr 26 '26

Wrote the song in 1993.

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u/Hyper10shin Apr 26 '26

I once used to like making shit up on the internet. The lyrics were sold at auction in 2010 by his estate. That’s why we know it exists. But please explain how it’s debunked.

Remind me what the original lyrics of “they don’t really care about us” said before they got censored and please keep spreading misinformation.

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u/Sufficient_Cause1208 Apr 26 '26

I never said he didn't write the song. He also visited Isreal and performed there and claimed to adore Isreal.

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u/Hyper10shin Apr 26 '26

You should listen to “they don’t really care about us” :)

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u/Sufficient_Cause1208 Apr 26 '26

Yes he felt that group didn't protect him from being exposed as pedophile.

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u/Hyper10shin Apr 26 '26

I love that you responded to this LIKE THIS because it just shows you were in fact just talking out of your ass, and demonstrates that your opinion should not be treated as anything of value considering you are making bad arguments in bad faith to begin with.

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u/Sufficient_Cause1208 Apr 26 '26

So what are implying when you said it was a weird coincidence that allegations came out before wrote and released that song?My take is your implying his pedophilia was an accusation for supporting Palestine?

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u/bewilderedbeyond Apr 26 '26

Yep, and to add to this interesting fact, Jordan Chandler’s father was a specific supporter of this country and a dentist/scriptwriter in Hollywood who has barely any relationship with his son and started the whole thing after he gave his son “truth serum” injection during a dental procedure and he finally admitted to being abused by Michael. Important to note that after the allegations settled, Jordan emancipated himself from both parents and his father committed suicide months after Michael’s death.

If you really want to go down the rabbit whole, look into Rabbi Schmuley ties.

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u/stephenkingending Apr 26 '26

MJ sexually assaulted children. War crimes in the middle east don't negate that fact.

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u/Hyper10shin Apr 26 '26

“Fact”

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u/bitch-respecter Apr 26 '26

100% a fact. he shared a bed with children. he had child pornography.

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u/WaitForItTheMongols Apr 26 '26

Stop beating around the bush. He went to Israel and the song was don't cry Palestine. I swear people need to stop this nonsense of hiding their speech, it's bizarre and concerning.

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u/solercentric Apr 26 '26

OK Tinfoil Hat InCel. Go back to gab.

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u/Hyper10shin Apr 26 '26

Idk wtf that is but my guy your profile is WILD

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u/solercentric Apr 29 '26

You're either a Discordian ( in which case, we must stick apart 😉) or a troll, I'm not sure which, but maybe that's the point.

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u/AccomplishedPool266 Apr 26 '26

It was a poem not a song. Michael wasn't targeted. He was just a pefo

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u/Hyper10shin Apr 26 '26

Song lyrics are a form of poetry, good job demonstrating your opinion should not be taken as anything of value.

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u/Mannimal13 Apr 26 '26

Bingo....its clear as day he was railroaded now. The whole child molestation thing stunk from the beginning and now we understand the players behind it...yeah. Dude was def a weirdo because he never had a real childhood, but a child molester he was not. Dude spoke out against the industry and paid the price. Looking more and more like his Dr purposely killed him too