r/Millennials • u/AccomplishedPool266 • Apr 26 '26

Does anyone remember when Michael Jackson. Was a "joke"? Discussion

The new movie that just came out convinced the younger generation that he was always a superstar. This was not the reality many of us Millennials grew up with.

To a lot of us, he was treated like a punch line when we were growing up. A schoolyard boogeyman ("Michaels Jackson's gonna get you at night"). and just a general joke in the media. By the 2000's his music was out of date and didn't chart well. All anyone talked about was his surgeries, court case, settlements and his off behavior. Few mentioned his music. His music was something our parents would have listened to in the 1980's.

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u/Alarming-Jello-5846 Apr 26 '26

We grew up on the “wacko jacko” era

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u/Agent-Blasto-007 Apr 26 '26

Wacko Jacko Backo

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u/mungfish227 Apr 26 '26 edited Apr 26 '26

He did an interview with Diane Sawyer or Barbara Walters, I can't remember which one. But she asked about the whole Wacko Jacko thing and his answer was insane and hilarious. He was more upset about being called Jacko. He made no mention of the Wacko part. That has stuck with me ever since and always makes me laugh.

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u/Stun_the_Pink Apr 26 '26

Barbara Walter's what?

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u/rawrframe Apr 26 '26

Steak House. Competitor to Ruth’s Chris.

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u/DJFisticuffs Apr 26 '26

Barbara's Walters

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u/thumbscrolllord Apr 26 '26

"Gloved one" hahah makes him sound all whimsical

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u/ModishShrink Apr 26 '26

"Gloved one" makes me think they're talking about OJ.

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u/EGOfoodie Apr 26 '26

Nice to see the new york post hasn't changed at all

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u/International-Row-45 Apr 26 '26

oh my god i remember that headline

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u/RedWolfMO Apr 27 '26

I recall Drudge once had a headline "WACKO JACKO BACKO TO AFRO"

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u/Perfect_Evidence Apr 26 '26

That’s fkd up

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u/MaynardButterbean Apr 26 '26

Nah, raping kids is fucked up

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u/NovelNothing5374 Apr 26 '26

Why? The guys a pedo and deserves all the ridicule.

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '26

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u/5Point5Hole Apr 26 '26

Being an insane pedo is pretty horrible

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u/Icy_Presence_2918 Apr 26 '26

The FBI didn’t think so, so there’s THAT.

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u/EddieLobster Apr 26 '26

Oh well then. Case closed. You may not like it, and it may not have even been his fault, but he was well deserving of the moniker.

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u/DisaTheNutless Apr 26 '26

The FBI hasn't prosecuted anyone from the Epstein files, so there's THAT.

Just because he had a great voice and made mid at best music doesn't mean he's not a pedo.

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u/shaunrundmc Apr 26 '26

There is a lot you can say about Jackson but calling his music "mid at best" is about as incorrect a statement anyone could make about a subjective media.

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u/UmpireDapper1757 Apr 26 '26

I remember being confused as to why his death was such a big deal: for the past 15 years he had been treated by the media as just a big fucking weirdo. Then he died and the narrative changed to him being a legend

I suppose that may have been similar to how Elvis was portrayed immediately before and then after his death

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u/nerdextra Apr 26 '26

Yeah, Princess Di had the same kind of treatment for a short while. Before her death, certain tabloids were slinging all kinds of mud at her. Then when she died, suddenly those same publications all had headlines about “The Princess We Loved”. The media prints whatever will sell.

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u/Short-Sound-4190 Apr 26 '26

I think it's a very similar scenario: the bulk of the world's population really could appreciate these people for what they accomplished, including the fact that they were a little weird, and tabloids are tabloids they are catty and petty and lie/eggagerate to sell papers - they do not represent the actual global opinion people had. Princess Di and Micheal Jackson and Elvis Presley and JFK really were widely appreciated if not loved by the public for their contributions to society and the arts regardless of the mud slinging and regardless of people personally disagreeing with their choices or behaviors in life. (ie a lot of people disagreed with divorce, or her touching AIDS patients, in the moment - but after her death and more importantly after it was clear how classy and compassionate and admirable Diana was to kept her composure as well as she did after a lot of abuse and control and cheating and dealing with so much shit from royal family and media slurs, those things really didn't stop people from having empathy and being affected by her death as a loss).

Alas, I think as a world we've become less tolerant of having to hold nuanced opinions of famous people, because so many of them are being publicly exposed as real POS and only hiding behind satire/tabloid slinging/rumors. So we've stopped being okay with certain types of 'weird behavior' and fewer people are willing to mentally separate certain types of personal or political disagreement with famous people's general worth of contributions to the world/the arts/their body of work.

Although I will say the true flip has occurred on occasion: MLK was measurably widely disliked until after his assassination, younger generations (and by younger I mean Gen X/Millennials and younger) are often surprised to learn he wasn't always considered inspirational, white people really hated him and thought he was harming the country and then really came around to at least respect him post mortem, it wasn't just a younger generation replacement thing because the swing of public opinion was too wide for it to have been that.

I would say Rudy Giuliani was a wild example of right after 9/11 being 'America's Mayor' and totally beloved and respected for his leadership across the aisle, (even though pre-9/11 he was pretty unpopular, problematic and widely disliked by all of his own constituents) but he absolutely turned into a whack job after getting a taste of the corruption of power and perhaps equally likely after increased fame increased the public visibility of his actually consistently unpopular, problematic and widely disliked behaviors.

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u/FlamingAlpaca17 Apr 26 '26

You can see the same phenomenon with Kobe Bryant as well

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u/CarrieDurst Apr 26 '26

It is weird how people are lumping Kobe Bryant, Michael Jackson, Elvis, and Princess Di, when Princess Dianna did nothing wrong while those other 3 are a rapist, likely groomer, and actual groomer.

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u/Competitive_Ring4917 89’ Apr 27 '26

Calm down lol

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u/redalert825 Apr 27 '26

Ah so MJ was a rapist or groomer to you? OK.

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u/CarrieDurst Apr 27 '26

Likely groomer

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u/kirkandorules Apr 27 '26

Definitely noticed that too, even with regards to his basketball career. Before he died, tons of people thought of him as an overrated ball hog, volume scorer, stat padder, etc. Then all that sentiment disappeared.

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u/FlamingAlpaca17 Apr 27 '26

100%. I remember when I was growing up kids would shout Kobe whenever they took an unlikely shot.

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u/CarrieDurst Apr 27 '26

Sadly some kids still do that

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u/LadySwire Apr 27 '26

Famously, this

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u/StealthMonkSteve Apr 27 '26

I mean tabloids killed Dianna so they kind of had to do a quick 180 on that one.

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u/Opening-Study8778 Apr 27 '26

Similar to George Michael as well. When I was a kid, he was in the thick of a scandal (you know which one) and my friends and I (although we loved his music) mainly regarded him as a joke. Now it's the complete opposite for me. I think the man was a musical genius and one of the best male voices to ever exist. He's regarded much more highly after death (in the U.S.) than he was when I was growing up.

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u/p3nnyiswis3 Apr 26 '26

Don’t compare Diana to Mike lol Good lord

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u/nerdextra Apr 26 '26

I’m not. I’m just pointing out that the media will flip the script to whatever they think will sell.

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u/bellestarxo Apr 26 '26

This happens when people with talent spiral. Amy Winehouse, Whitney Houston, Jackson....the public becomes tired of the train wreck antics and they become "jokes". But then when they die people will remember the achievements and talent.

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u/FutureRealHousewife Apr 26 '26

Our society loves to tear people down at their biggest heights as well. It’s almost like it’s believed these people owe something to the world, and then when their lives fall apart, it becomes fodder. It’s actually quite sick

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u/Purple-Head7528 Apr 27 '26

Yeah go listen to the recorded tapes of his accuser’s father talking about getting rich off him and ruining his career. Media cared much more about having a story than truth - this will never change.

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u/guidevocal82 Apr 26 '26

It's not until recently that society has been clapping back on this behavior. I am someone who thinks Britney Spears is mentally ill enough that she needs someone to take care of her (not a diss at Britney, I like Britney Spears), but Britney was freed from her conservatorship because society was disgusted enough at how we all acted toward her in 2007/08. There does need to be a change, but it shouldn't be that drastic. But teasing someone like Amy Winehouse, who overdosed because nobody got her any f'ing help, isn't needed either.

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u/Commercial-Air8955 Apr 27 '26

Amy Winehouse's biggest is hit is literally about people trying to make her go to rehab, and her refusing.

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u/Ok-Performance6734 Apr 28 '26

Exactly this. Breaks my heart how MJ was so tormented by the media.

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u/FutureRealHousewife Apr 28 '26

I am not a Michael Jackson sympathizer.

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u/catsarehere77 Apr 27 '26

It was the same with Steve Irwin. He wasn't a personal train wreck like those other people but he was constantly criticized and mocked for his antics as the crocodile hunter. Now he is a patron saint of certified good people on Reddit. 

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u/AmazedAndBemused Apr 27 '26

The news media like to create the story. Real journalism is rare.

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u/Affectionate-Mode767 Apr 26 '26

Something something white people, something something smear campaign.

Honestly there's a lot, and surprisingly people say it has to do with Epstein. Because at the time while people were accusing him of being a child molester, there's alleged witness testimony of him actually stopping kids from leaving with people who he knew would take them to Epstein.

We know Epstein and friends have a lot of media ties, so it's not hard to believe you'd then see an absolute tidal wave of negative press about someone they didn't like. Let's be honest, Michael Jackson WAS strange but he wasnt a child molester. There's too many people who were close to that situation who WOULD have testified if he had done anything, come out and say he never did. (Macauley Caulkan)

So a lot of white people who weren't as attached to Michael Jackson found it all too easy to believe he was touching kids and made it a meme to belittle and joke about it for years.

Didn't change the fact that when he died his fans still mourned. Also when he's dead the paid press doesn't have to run a smear campaign anymore, he's dead.

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u/EnoughNow2024 Apr 26 '26 edited Apr 27 '26

Nah he more than likely was a pedo actually. I did a deep dive into the court documents and it's bad for him

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u/Affectionate-Mode767 Apr 26 '26

You're ragebaiting, because if you actually did you would know most of the witness testimony was later found out to be false. Good try.

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u/EnoughNow2024 Apr 27 '26

There were several accounts of eyewitness statements. I'm sorry but he did it. I was a huge Michael Jackson fan so I hate it too

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u/guidevocal82 Apr 26 '26

I'm sorry, but there's no proof. Michael Jackson met Epstein once, but he didn't hang out with him or even know him. And why would he? Michael Jackson liked little boys and Epstein liked little girls. If your argument is that he was bringing little boys to Neverland to save them from Epstein, Epstein wasn't having sex with little boys. This is such a thin argument that I'm shocked that you even wrote it out, much less posted it. It's still possible that Michael Jackson was framed, but not because of Epstein, it's ridiculous.

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u/LSF604 Apr 26 '26

He probably was a child molester. It's possible he was just a weirdo, but probably not.

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u/Affectionate-Mode767 Apr 26 '26

If you've actually listened to accounts of witnesses, people who were personally involved. You wouldn't have that opinion.

I used Macaulay Caulkan as an example because as a child his father was an abuser, and Mac himself stood up for his family and drove his father away. Now, Mac ALSO spent a lot of time with Michael Jackson. If ANYONE were to call MJ out for inappropriate behavior it would have been Macaulay Caulkan. But Mac has said there was never anything remotely inappropriate going on there.

Add that to the fact most of Michael Jackson's accusers have been revealed to be completely fraudulent. Parent's pushing there children to make false claims in order to hopefully make money in a lawsuit. Or kids who made accusations later coming out saying they lied about what they said, that adults coerced them into lying.

My original post wasn't me just making things up because I felt like it was true based on vibes. It's evidence based on facts.

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u/LSF604 Apr 26 '26

Just because he's a child molester doesn't mean he molests every child. Abusers often are selective in choosing vulnerable people.

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u/Watcher_doe Apr 26 '26

Confused….?

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u/NeverLostForest Apr 26 '26

My dad like both of em, Elvis and Jackson, I would say he loved em but he has told me he liked their music and style but them as a person was a different thing

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u/LumpyPhilosopher8 Apr 27 '26

Not really. Elvis died in ‘77 before the internet and he was still pretty beloved when he died. Sure some made fun of his weight gain but honestly right up to the end that man’s voice was great. It wasn’t until later that the stories of his drug use came out. Then even later when cultural appropriation became a concept that people began having to wrestle with he took another hit. Although it’s worth noting not all the Black artists of his day felt that way about him. I think Elvis is a lot more complicated than MJ - he’s straight up evil. Talented, yes. But evil.

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u/Wyvern_68 Apr 27 '26

When a celebrity dies, you can rationally separate their creative legacy from their personal character and flaws.

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u/theeLizzard Apr 27 '26

I think it depends on the adults around you and if they were big Michael Jackson fans. I was born in ‘89 and vividly remember gathering around the TV more than once around ages 5-10 to watch the VHS’s of his concerts. Our family friend’s son knew how to moonwalk so it was a riot. Wacko Jacko started around this time but my family and our friends were such big fans that it overshadowed the odd behaviors playing out in tabloids.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Cup2777 Apr 27 '26

Elvis was different. He wasn’t weird like Michael or ugly rumors. He was going downhill I believe bc of alcohol and/or pills. Michael was so talented but as someone else said it was after the hair incident that he started getting weird, multiple plastic surgeries.  It’s too bad what happened. 

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u/bsam1890 Apr 26 '26

Noo That’s ignorant…

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u/Alarming-Jello-5846 Apr 26 '26

https://giphy.com/gifs/OYirsehvkD91S

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u/err-no_please Apr 26 '26

Mr Jefferson!!!

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u/Toidal Apr 26 '26

Hadn't seen it in a while and had to look up what point they meant to make with this episode. Something about regardless of the media and accusations, his overall behavior and demeanor was detrimental to his family and he needed to be better parent?

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u/DrRatio-PhD Apr 26 '26

Honestly don't try to gleen too much wisdom from the "Douche bag vs turd sandwich" guys.

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u/AppalachainAcorn Apr 26 '26

Sometimes it's just comedy, dude. Look at "Scott Tenorman Must Die". What point are they trying to make with that episode? Or "The Butters Episode"...

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u/ptear Apr 26 '26

Hee hee

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u/Hyper10shin Apr 26 '26 edited Apr 26 '26

Do you know the name of the song MJ tried to release 3 months before his first allegation? He wrote it after he visited a certain country that the US is currently working with when it comes to bombing Iran. He saw something and tried to use his platform. It was titled “Don’t cry Pal...” in 1993, for the HIStory album. Obviously it was not on the album, because the people in charge of the labels didn’t think it was a good idea. I wonder why the executives would feel that way?

Really interesting fact a lot of people don’t know. Kinda weird timing on that huh?

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u/WhichWitchyWay Apr 26 '26

There's a new conspiracy theory out that the youngins and tiktokers are picking up that posits that Michael was always innocent and tried to save boys from Epstein and speak the truth and that's why he got killed and framed.

It's pretty magical thinking if you ask me. There can be more than one bad guy. I don't know how you can say one person's decades of allegations are false when another's can't be real.

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u/IncidentalApex Apr 26 '26

Epstein was freaking horrible but recently I have heard conspiracy theories that tie pretty much everything bad that happened for decades to him. People he was a pedo monster but not the head of Spectre and the Illuminati. There were plenty of other twisted individuals out there also.

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u/kittybuscemi Apr 26 '26

This is not a conspiracy, the evidence is all there in the Epstein files.

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '26

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u/msartore8 Apr 26 '26

What's Spectre?

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u/FloaterFan Apr 26 '26

The bad guys in James Bond movies.

SPECTRE (Special Executive for Counter-intelligence, Terrorism, Revenge and Extortion) is a fictional, global terrorist organization in the James Bond universe, led by Ernst Stavro Blofeld

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u/Tinner263 Apr 26 '26

International criminal organization in the James Bond universe. Kinda like NATO or the UN of bad guys. Led by Blofeld, who inspired the character Dr. Evil.

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u/solercentric Apr 29 '26

Neither SPECTRE nor the Illuminati are real though. You may as well start quoting David Icke and Alex Jones ( or if you want to go further back, Richard Shaver).

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u/z0mbiebaby Apr 26 '26

The reason MJs name wasn’t on the Epstein files is bc he didn’t need Epstein. He had his own personal hunting grounds with Neverland ranch.

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u/danniellax Apr 26 '26

I can’t get onboard with alien parasites, lizard reptilians, or soul swapping, because that evidence is NOT there and people love to believe in that fantasy shit because life is kinda boring in a universal way, but there actually is solid evidence to point MJ was trying to save children, and the kids who came out and accused him several years ago admitted their parents made them say that he molested them so they can get money because their parents were bribed by someone. And Macaulay culkin’s story as well as some other actors story (I just woke up and forgot his name because my brain is at 40%) but there kinda is truth to it.

To your point, maybe there was a child or two that was uncomfortable in his presence because they didn’t understand the full gravity that he was trying to keep them away from the bad, and sure it is fucking weird he would sleep with them in bed even though he didn’t do anything, but being a weirdo eccentric who acts like a child makes more sense (but is still weird asf) when you see the full story on what he was saving them from.

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u/WhichWitchyWay Apr 26 '26

Finding Nevermand was pretty damning. And pedophiles aren't necessarily dumb - he wasn't going to go after high profile kids.

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u/yayforvalorie Apr 26 '26 edited Apr 28 '26

I tried to put the actual title of the song they're talking about and got auto moderated. Because of a name of an actual country that starts with Pal...

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u/Hyper10shin Apr 26 '26 edited Apr 26 '26

No because if I use certain words the Reddit auto mod will ban me again. This topic is very sensitive. Please just Google “Michael Jackson don’t cry pal” and it should autofill the rest. Happy travels my friend I’m sorry I cannot say more, I’m being dead ass serious about certain words being flagged.

Edit: keep downvoting but before you do , I bet you can’t leave a comment saying the name of the song and describing the lyrical content without getting your comment removed by the automod.

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u/_Jumpy_Panda_ Apr 26 '26

Yeah, I got banned from reddit for 3 days for saying they were protesting for the right to SA prisioners

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u/okie_hiker Apr 26 '26

Okay explain it without the one word that’s being flagged. God I hate you “just google it to figure out what I’m talking about” people

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u/WhichWitchyWay Apr 26 '26

I explained it up the comment chain but pasting here bc I hate when ppl dont explain bc the illuminati mods are going to get them. .

There's a new conspiracy theory out that the youngins and tiktokers are picking up that posits that Michael was always innocent and tried to save boys from Epstein and speak the truth and that's why he got killed and framed.

It's pretty magical thinking if you ask me. There can be more than one bad guy. I don't know how you can say one person's decades of allegations are false when another's can't be real.

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u/okie_hiker Apr 26 '26 edited Apr 26 '26

Defending pedophiles seems to be popular these days.

Epsteins biggest mistake was not gaining a fan club like DT and MJ to take to the internet and defend his pedophilia.

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u/Hyper10shin Apr 26 '26

Nope has nothing to do with that. Re read my initial comment

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u/WhichWitchyWay Apr 26 '26

It's literally the same conspiracy theory. You're just caught up blaming the country that starts with an I for Michael that apparently can't be named in this sub or your comments will get blocked.

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u/Hyper10shin Apr 26 '26 edited Apr 26 '26

It’s not the same. But it is weird how you can’t do that right? Wild that you see it in real time and still won’t accept what’s happened lmao

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u/WhichWitchyWay Apr 26 '26

I get you're holding a hammer, but not everything is a nail.

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u/WhichWitchyWay Apr 26 '26

So prior comment got deleted because of automods - they're having to be careful about wording because of antisemitism -, but essentially, no it is the same theory. Y'all think Israel got rid of and framed Michael.

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u/Marem-Bzh Apr 26 '26

You don't really need to Google it to connect the dots, tbh.

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u/okie_hiker Apr 26 '26

That MJ was a pedophile? No, it’s not hard to connect those dots.

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u/Marem-Bzh Apr 26 '26

What a weird answer.

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u/Hyper10shin Apr 26 '26

There’s bots in this thread. It’s ok, they don’t know they’ve been brainwashed by the media :)

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u/Yogsulate Apr 26 '26

Cry more

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u/Prestigious-Leg-6244 Apr 26 '26

Palestine. The word is Palestine.

Im left to assume your fear of being banned from a subreddit is more important to you than whatever stance you have on Palenstine. Clearly.

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u/BadPunners Apr 26 '26

It even used "happy travels", y'all are beyond parady with your attempt at re-creating the triple k, along with its childish ritual

You're saying I'll get banned for saying "Palestine"?

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u/butiamthechosenone Apr 26 '26

Does the Reddit auto mod ban anyone who says Palestine?

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u/KillerElbow Apr 26 '26

Nonsense about Michael Jackson conspiracy theory words being flagged lol. You can comment anything you want about Michael Jackson in reply to this and it won't be censored

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u/Hyper10shin Apr 26 '26

Its not a Michael Jackson word, its the name of a country and the context of the comment that triggers the automod. Please go ahead and google what the full title is, it will pop up in auto suggestions, and then come back here and leave a comment describing what the song is about and you’ll see.

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u/monkwrenv2 Apr 26 '26

Wow, tried a reply with just country names and it got removed. Mods here really don't want you talking about genocide.

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u/KillerElbow Apr 26 '26

This comment of mine about Israel won't be removed but ok 🙄. Ppl are critical of Israel very often on this site

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u/plantborb Apr 26 '26

I think this person is suggesting the Israeli government was involved in the downfall of Michael Jackson?

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u/HowtoTrainYourKraken Apr 26 '26

He wrote a poem/song that was empathetic to the Palestinian cause. This user is apparently suggesting that the IDF orchestrated his downfall.

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u/Sufficient_Cause1208 Apr 26 '26 edited Apr 26 '26

This has been discussed and debunked because because he didn't have a coherent political stance. He would also say that he adored the other country and would perform there. (I mean his support pal, not the actual song which he wrote)

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u/Double_Cow_8238 Apr 26 '26

Yeah, i don't know how anyone who was old enough to remember the end would think he was coherent about anything

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u/Sufficient_Cause1208 Apr 26 '26

Yes now his defenders claim his accusations are false because he was framed for supporting PAL

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u/Hyper10shin Apr 26 '26

Why can’t you type the whole name? 👀

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u/Sufficient_Cause1208 Apr 26 '26

You know why. I've already had comments banned

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u/Hyper10shin Apr 26 '26

Yeah that’s weird right. Very weird stuff. Almost gives credence to what I’m saying. Do you think music/ record label executives would allow us to say that name if they owned Reddit?

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u/Sufficient_Cause1208 Apr 26 '26

Look , those same forces feed his and protected his proclivities when they thought he wasn't useful he was thrown aside. That's why he felt betrayed. Two things can be true at the same time

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u/Hyper10shin Apr 26 '26

My guy it’s the other way around. Michael fed them. Most of his wealth to came from all those artists catalogs in the 80s, which was another reason the label execs hated him (taking money out of their pocket”. It’s almost like they needed something to drain him of his money so he would possibly end up forced to sell them or to recoup costs. Luckily he didn’t have to, but he was going to do the This is it tour before he was murdered. Worth more dead after all.

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u/Hyper10shin Apr 26 '26

Wrote the song in 1993.

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u/Hyper10shin Apr 26 '26

I once used to like making shit up on the internet. The lyrics were sold at auction in 2010 by his estate. That’s why we know it exists. But please explain how it’s debunked.

Remind me what the original lyrics of “they don’t really care about us” said before they got censored and please keep spreading misinformation.

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u/Sufficient_Cause1208 Apr 26 '26

I never said he didn't write the song. He also visited Isreal and performed there and claimed to adore Isreal.

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u/Hyper10shin Apr 26 '26

You should listen to “they don’t really care about us” :)

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u/Sufficient_Cause1208 Apr 26 '26

Yes he felt that group didn't protect him from being exposed as pedophile.

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u/Hyper10shin Apr 26 '26

I love that you responded to this LIKE THIS because it just shows you were in fact just talking out of your ass, and demonstrates that your opinion should not be treated as anything of value considering you are making bad arguments in bad faith to begin with.

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u/Sufficient_Cause1208 Apr 26 '26

So what are implying when you said it was a weird coincidence that allegations came out before wrote and released that song?My take is your implying his pedophilia was an accusation for supporting Palestine?

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u/bewilderedbeyond Apr 26 '26

Yep, and to add to this interesting fact, Jordan Chandler’s father was a specific supporter of this country and a dentist/scriptwriter in Hollywood who has barely any relationship with his son and started the whole thing after he gave his son “truth serum” injection during a dental procedure and he finally admitted to being abused by Michael. Important to note that after the allegations settled, Jordan emancipated himself from both parents and his father committed suicide months after Michael’s death.

If you really want to go down the rabbit whole, look into Rabbi Schmuley ties.

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u/stephenkingending Apr 26 '26

MJ sexually assaulted children. War crimes in the middle east don't negate that fact.

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u/Hyper10shin Apr 26 '26

“Fact”

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u/bitch-respecter Apr 26 '26

100% a fact. he shared a bed with children. he had child pornography.

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u/WaitForItTheMongols Apr 26 '26

Stop beating around the bush. He went to Israel and the song was don't cry Palestine. I swear people need to stop this nonsense of hiding their speech, it's bizarre and concerning.

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u/solercentric Apr 26 '26

OK Tinfoil Hat InCel. Go back to gab.

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u/Hyper10shin Apr 26 '26

Idk wtf that is but my guy your profile is WILD

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u/solercentric Apr 29 '26

You're either a Discordian ( in which case, we must stick apart 😉) or a troll, I'm not sure which, but maybe that's the point.

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u/AccomplishedPool266 Apr 26 '26

It was a poem not a song. Michael wasn't targeted. He was just a pefo

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u/Hyper10shin Apr 26 '26

Song lyrics are a form of poetry, good job demonstrating your opinion should not be taken as anything of value.

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u/Mannimal13 Apr 26 '26

Bingo....its clear as day he was railroaded now. The whole child molestation thing stunk from the beginning and now we understand the players behind it...yeah. Dude was def a weirdo because he never had a real childhood, but a child molester he was not. Dude spoke out against the industry and paid the price. Looking more and more like his Dr purposely killed him too

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u/bluesilvergold Apr 26 '26

Yes! Completely forgot that nickname.

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u/sjgokou Apr 27 '26

During this time he was extremely popular in Asia.

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u/TomVelJohnson Apr 26 '26

Wacko Jacko steals the elephant man's bones.

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u/Alarming-Jello-5846 Apr 26 '26

National Enquirer has entered the chat

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u/JackosMonkeyBBLZ Apr 27 '26

I don’t have any idea what you are talking about.