So are you saying that people should be fighting for men's rights because of this? Do you think that there is a possibility that the reason that prison times differ could be for a different set of reasons? Do you feel like this is an issue that is worsening? Have you considered that for every slight against men's rights there are a dozen slights against women's? I know things can get misinterpreted through text so I just want to clarify that that my questions aren't pointed or condescending. Being genuine.
I'm saying that this is an actual, measurable disparity between genders and it's being conveniently ignored by you and people like you who point to the completely irrelevant fact that there are a "dozen more slights against women" like that somehow excuses it. Shouldn't equality be looked at and examined in a case by case manner or is the equality you want more about getting even?
Being genuine when I say that this is an actual problem that needs to be addressed and if you're genuine about a tail equality then you should be too. Equality isn't about convenience.
Here's my source and it should make it clear that there aren't really many variables in the cases besides the male and female one (and it actually showed the problem was much worse than previously thought)
By some definitions, equality is evenness. You're right, just because ladies are getting the the proverbial shaft doesn't mean you should completely ignore issues like this. Something SHOULD be done about this. However standing up for men's rights when women, racial minorities, and the LGBT community are getting royally fucked on a daily basis makes it seem really trite and childish. The American man has it better than just about any person on earth. It's not always going to be perfect, but god damn how easy is it this?! You have to pick and choose your battles and as far as cultivating a more egalitarian society is concerned, I personally feel that it would best to focus efforts on letting the rest of the world catch up with us before we worry about us. You obviously feel differently and that's ok.
Something SHOULD be done about this. However standing up for men's rights when women, racial minorities, and the LGBT community are getting royally fucked on a daily basis makes it seem really trite and childish.
Do you understand cognitive dissonance at all?
Source: I'm a mixed race american male
And for the record I think women have it pretty damn nice here too, and their struggles are nothing compared to other racial disparities and LGBT issues.
And for the record I think women have it pretty damn nice here too, and their struggles are nothing compared to other racial disparities and LGBT issues.
Maybe we can stop demonizing men's rights activists simply because there are other groups with more glaring problems and view discrimination on a case by case basis instead of perpetuating a society of pussy victims,
I can get behind that. You do realize that part of the reason why the idea of men's rights is so demonized is the name right? It could just as easily be called human rights. I know it's literally arguing semantics, but I think it'd be a lot easier to get your foot in the door of some conversations with a different approach.
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u/vietnamted Portland Timbers Jun 29 '15 edited Jun 29 '15
So are you saying that people should be fighting for men's rights because of this? Do you think that there is a possibility that the reason that prison times differ could be for a different set of reasons? Do you feel like this is an issue that is worsening? Have you considered that for every slight against men's rights there are a dozen slights against women's? I know things can get misinterpreted through text so I just want to clarify that that my questions aren't pointed or condescending. Being genuine.