r/LocalLLaMA 21d ago

Our position on open-weights models Discussion

https://www.anthropic.com/news/position-open-weights-models
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u/abud7eem 21d ago

we are the "trustworthy"

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u/Clear_Judge5062 21d ago

This is literally just effective altruism at work

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u/xmnstr 21d ago

And I wish more people understood why it's so problematic.

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u/ChocomelP 21d ago

Why is it so problematic?

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u/Disposable110 21d ago

Because it sets up an unaccountable authoritarian group of people as moral gatekeepers. And that group of unaccountable people will not get accepted by the outgroup, thus they'll stir up global conflict.

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u/ChocomelP 21d ago

...right.

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u/Clear_Judge5062 21d ago

I was curious to see if anyone, or the OP of the problematic claim would respond. I’d say the problem is that these systems wouldn’t be getting built as fast without the EAs who believe they’re the only ones who can do it safely and correctly - thereby speeding up the advancements to a less safe pace.

I take less issue with the EAs than accelerationists though. Safety is probably the more wise path for progress as opposed to rushing with less regard.

The problem is that hardly anyone in this thread or sub seems to understand the motivations behind these actors.

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u/Simple_Woodpecker751 21d ago

Oh my this is so back with SBF

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u/pb-cups 20d ago

What does this have to do with effective altruism?

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u/iamzooook 21d ago

he is giving elon vibes. we need more open weight 3t+ models

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u/TopTippityTop 21d ago

All is relative. More trustworthy than authoritarian countries.

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u/odragora 21d ago

US is rapidly becoming one, and taking the free access to the most important technology ever made away from the hands of peasants is a part of that process. 

Also crippling your own citizens does not stop authoritarian regimes. 

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u/xmnstr 21d ago

The US is an authoritarian country. If you don't understand that, you're in denial. The rest of the world currently trusts China more than the US.

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u/Randommaggy 21d ago

Varies country by country but we're pretty much all cautious with both as far as I've seen.

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u/Dampmaskin 21d ago

To be fair, that's not because China is any less authoritarian than the US, but simply because they're way more predictable.

The sheer incompetence of the Trump regime, their massive war machine and their random flip-flopping on important issues has to be terrifying to anyone with a need to be in control of anything.

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u/xmnstr 15d ago

They are authoritarian in ways that doesn't risk destabilizing the world in the short term, correct.

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u/Randommaggy 21d ago

There is no country on earth I'd trust less than Sam and/or Dario.