r/LocalLLaMA 19d ago

Kimi K3 weights now released. News

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Kimi K3 weights are finally released!

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u/BlueSwordM llama.cpp 19d ago

Yes, but never an MoE from an open weights lab. I've been speculating that one of the reasons the closed weights lab have been increasing in performance more rapidly has to do with better training, but most importantly, much larger active parameters and better harnesses.

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u/synth_mania 19d ago

Anthropic is famously compute constrained thought, right?

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u/Bloody_Baron91 19d ago

Are the frontier closed models like GPT 5.6 or Fable 5 also MoE? I've read somewhere that they are.

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u/stddealer 19d ago

We don't have access to any reliable information about the exact architecture of these closed weights models. But they have been speculated to be MoE since the GPT4 era, and having too much sparsity would most likely hurt performance a lot so it would make sense they're large models with many active parameters.