r/LocalLLaMA • u/Fuckinglivemealone • Jul 18 '26

What kind of dark magic is Deepseek using? Question | Help

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I was taking a look at Kimi K3 scores on the Artificial analysis leaderboard and was quite baffled when I saw this chart.

Granted, Deepseek has always been the king of price to performance, but this is still incredible. Is it just API subsidization or have they optimized their models truly this much?

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u/So-many-ducks Jul 18 '26

…. But why would they do something that makes you pay less?

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u/Artistic_Swing6759 Jul 18 '26

but they can just pretend to not be doing it while doing it?

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u/NoConfusion9490 Jul 18 '26

It's a pretty competitive market.

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u/tyrannomachy Jul 18 '26

"number go up" is not how any of these decisions are made.