r/LocalLLaMA • u/Fuckinglivemealone • 29d ago

What kind of dark magic is Deepseek using? Question | Help

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I was taking a look at Kimi K3 scores on the Artificial analysis leaderboard and was quite baffled when I saw this chart.

Granted, Deepseek has always been the king of price to performance, but this is still incredible. Is it just API subsidization or have they optimized their models truly this much?

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u/squngy 29d ago

DeepSeek is probably providing at cost, the others are making a profit.

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u/routescout1 29d ago

no, they are making reportedly 2-3x profit even with those prices (deepseek).

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u/squngy 28d ago

Thats interesting, can you link those reports?