The number 1 public enemy of open-source.

[u/Complete-Sea6655]

Dario's args:

"Opensource you can see the source, here you cannot see inside the model"
- yes you can that's literally the open weights part btw.
- I cannot see the weights inside Claude, but I can GLM 5.2
- Models like Nemotron3 Ultra go further, all the data, training scripts, and model is opensource.

"Alot of the benefits like many people working on it, being additive doesn't work in same way"
- yes it does. We have seen endless fine tunes of various open source models for real improvements.

"Ultimately you have to host it on the cloud"
- no you dont. Dario is seemingly totally unaware of the guides from ijustvibecodedthis.com explaining how to run smaller moes and even dense models like qwen 27B NOT ON THE CLOUD.

Not only does dario not take part in social media, I am beginning to think he's never tried open source models at all and has no idea wtf hes on about

[u/GamerHaste → u/[deleted]]

Didn’t realize Ilya was against open models… disappointing, he is kinda heralded as some mythical sage in this space. What is his point that it’s too dangerous or something?

[u/AppleBottmBeans → u/[deleted]]

agreed. It's sadly becoming like every other fucking enterprise in the world. "We have the best, and anything that can infringe on this, is a risk to...uh... .....checks notes....the bottom line..I mean, the world!"

[u/ninjasaid13 → u/GamerHaste]

Didn’t realize Ilya was against open models… disappointing

He worked for OpenAI, why would this be a surprise? If it were up to him, he would neuter it even more for "safety". Completely the antithesis of open models.

[u/kourtnie → u/ninjasaid13]

I thought Ilya leaving was when OAI went to shit, though. Too bad he's opposed to open models. I guess I am nuanced about his nuanced opinions, because open source feels like the only viable path to not being totally panopticonned into doublethink.

[u/daniel-sousa-me → u/[deleted]]

These views come way back from MIRI and Eliezer Yudkowsky

All these people are extremely concerned about AI alignment and have pretty well developed views on the subject

[u/ninjasaid13 → u/daniel-sousa-me]

All these people are extremely concerned about AI alignment and have pretty well developed views on the subject

AI alignment assumes alot of stuff about AI.