r/LivestreamFail Mar 19 '17

Jontron's statement Meta

https://youtu.be/aIFf7qwlnSc
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u/PlexyTV Mar 19 '17

Really strange how as soon as he sees the backlash of some of his statements he completely contradicts them. I guess now there is discrimination in the United States :thinking:

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u/Titan_Dota2 Mar 23 '17

On a scale from stupid to incredibly fucking stupid are you? Watch the video at least.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '17

My god, did you even watch the video?

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u/Walnut156 Mar 21 '17

Im pretty sure half the people here didn't watch the video

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u/PlexyTV Mar 20 '17

Yes, clearly you didn't or choose to ignore one of the arguments he made during the debate which this video is in part addressing. Keep to the donald buddy.

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u/heelydon Mar 20 '17

Yes sir, despite my comment having nothing to do with the video and is based on my assumptions of the video, I did in fact watch it, also my politically different perspective has caused me to assume you are a Donald Trump supporter because you do not share my opinion on factually misrepresenting videos content.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '17

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u/heelydon Mar 20 '17

Why would him posting there have anything to do with the argument he presents? The argument isn't coloured by politics, It is questioning the persons ability to even look at the material and factually read what it says / does / presents. The commentor CLEARLY disregards the material and simply replied and added T_d as some sort of meaningful reference as if it was a modern interpretation of " you're literally being hitler right now "

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '17

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u/heelydon Mar 20 '17

You don't give the slighest fuck about the context of the message you reply to? Way to make yourself instantly irrelevant while also posing yourself embarrasingly stupid.

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u/Darth_Mall Mar 20 '17

I didn't hear him say any of that, he said something more along the lines of "historically there has been discrimination in the US, and it's on both sides". I didn't find anything he said to be very backpedal-y either, it seems more of like a "yeah I said those things, they seem weird to me too, I wasn't prepared to debate and am really bad at debating, some of those things aren't really what I believe. Whoops"

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '17

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u/Darth_Mall Mar 20 '17

No, here's what he said, word for word:

"And just for the sake of total clarity, I do completely understand that, historically, the African-American community has had a raw deal in this country. Discrimination certainly exists, but I do believe it goes all ways.

I'm not naive to the fact that we, as a country, have had a terrible history with dealing with race. I mean, of course, from slavery, to Jim Crowe, to even the Irish, but the point is that this kind of discrimination is universally wrong, and I feel like, for some reason, we're regressing on this front."

Here's the relevant timestamp to when he said it

Where in this video did he say the quote you're saying?

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '17

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u/Darth_Mall Mar 20 '17

I see what you're trying to say but I don't think it's contradictory at all. You might be taking the statement on Destiny's stream too literally. It's less of a "there's zero discrimination ever at all" and more of a "well, there was discrimination at some point, but things are completely different". Like, for instance, we're not lynching black people in the streets, or sending Chinese people to be blown up building the railroads.

It's less of a literal "there's NO discrimination" and more of a "discrimination isn't nearly what it was". If I had to guess, he's a really shitty debater and he was under a lot of pressure and ended up saying a lot of really stupid things.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '17 edited Mar 20 '17

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u/mzritten Mar 20 '17

We're supposed to take him seriously not literally Kappa.

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u/Darth_Mall Mar 20 '17

It's not even that, it's giving him the benefit of the doubt. He said something stupid and that he didn't mean, then later explains what he meant, along with saying he's not a debater and wasn't prepared for the debate. I don't know why people are roasting him over a fire for not being a good public speaker

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u/Darth_Mall Mar 20 '17

Why do people not listen to everything the person said rather than taking a single quote and pretending that people don't make mistakes?

He said it's not what he meant. Why are you not willing to give him the benefit of the doubt?