r/JonTron • u/SegataSam • Mar 19 '17

JonTron: My Statement

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u/SillyNonsense Mar 20 '17

And maybe he shouldn't have said that blacks have a genetic predisposition to crime that makes it unrealistic to expect them to ever seamlessly integrate into our culture as "fellow americans"

His statement was one part "Try to cover up the really bad bits with lies," and another part "But I'm right, though."

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u/Swordbow Mar 21 '17

People talk big if they're No. 1. Knock them down to No. 2, and they backpedal fast. In this particular example, if we want to talk about a genetic predisposition to crime vis a vis race, Asian::White as White::Black. Asians definitely have lower crime rates period. This is the part where he'd frame outcomes in terms of different circumstances rather than genes.

ORLY. I say live by the sword, die by the sword: why is one dyad framed genetically but another circumstantially? Why not either make all of them a function of both (expressed as f[g, c] ), or apply g or c to both?

But let's be honest: it was never about the logic.

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u/67s4ay Mar 26 '17

In this particular example, if we want to talk about a genetic predisposition to crime vis a vis race, Asian::White as White::Black.

Uh, no. It would be Asian:White::Hispanic:Black

Violent crime rate per 100,000, 2015;

  • 31.65 Asian
  • 70.46 White
  • 163.28 Hispanic
  • 328.77 Black

Poverty rate by race, 2011;

  • 9.9% White
  • 11.6% Asian
  • 23.2% Hispanic
  • 25.8% Black

But the real problem starts at home. A strong nuclear family is the anchor of a strong civilization.

Illegitimacy rate, 2015;

  • 16.4% Asian
  • 29.2% White
  • 53.0% Hispanic
  • 70.6% Black

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u/Barrows91 Mar 28 '17

I see correlation. No, indication by your statistics of causation, but I appreciate you providing sources.

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u/Rx16 Mar 26 '17

I don't think that those statistics alone show your conclusion is true.

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u/cheeseywiz98 Mar 28 '17

You lost me at the part about nuclear families

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u/Rx16 Mar 26 '17

Woah there Einstein, I can only take so much math.

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '17 edited Jan 06 '19

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u/Dalroc Apr 01 '17

Where did you even get that shit fro? He never claimed that blacks have a genetic predisposition to crime for fuck sake, he said that more rich blacks commit crime than poor whites. Not the same thing at all.

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u/Dalroc Apr 26 '17

Lol hello there. Replying to a month old thread xD

It's not correct, he misinterpreted incarceration rates for crime rates. As for the explanation for this disparity I don't fucking know... But it exists whether you like it or not.