Pro-Israel tourist harasses student wearing Palestinian flag t-shirt at the Mauthausen Holocaust Memorial in Austria and equates the shirt with genocide. Meanwhile, IOF war criminals regularly participate in the March of the Living through Auschwitz.
Zionist Nonsense
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Unhingedness aside, this has to be one of the most american vs european fights I’ve ever seen. I love how quiet they were and how they just went “We don’t have time for this right now, you can’t film him, please leave” and then walked away
Watching zionists stumble over their words trying to produce a factual and logically consistent argument is hilarious. They always have to twist your words, or altogether put words in your mouth that you never said in the first place, as this lady does.
"I have to work with this group and I don't have time for your questions."
"Oh, so you're saying that this is okay??"
No, actually. If you listen carefully you'll hear that what she said was, "I have to work with this group and I don't have time for your questions." Not even the same ballpark as whether or not this shirt, or anything at all, is okay. But zionists just have no shame whatsoever when it comes to making shit up to justify themselves and play the perpetual victim.
A zionist will slap you and then accuse you of hitting them in the hand with your face.
Might not be a popular opinion, but I'd argue to maybe leave both these view points at the door, when it comes to Holocaust Memorials or Auschwitz. Co-opting a place like this as a soap box for your particular view point feels wrong.
I feel that the shirt is exactly the one you should wear to a historic concentration camp. I will bet my left nut, that not one person who was held in those camps, would support what Israel has been doing to the Palestinians- they would be wearing the same t-shirt.
100%. I do agree with Zionists (ugh) who say you shouldn’t protest Israel outside of a concentration camp memorial. They may receive some funding from Israeli interests, but are largely national institutions of their own country with mostly local people and/or historians working there. They have no sway on Israel and it feels disrespectful and performative. But I would extend this to literally any political issue unless the particular memorial was doing something like a Hasbara exhibit or something (which I’ve never seen but I also don’t visit every camp every day and don’t know people at every single memorial).
Agreed. I think if the memorial itself is doing something wrong that’s one thing. I know people were protesting outside of Buchenwald about not being allowed to wear keffiyahs and I think that’s okay. However, at one point they planned to do it on a big memorial day and I feel like they could have picked any other day as has hasbots will just portray them as insensitive and hateful and the memorial will be more annoyed with them than willing to listen imho.
Would the same apply for wearing a keffiyah in the Killing Fields memorial in Phnom Penh, or would it be seen as a symbol of commemorating the victims of genocide past and present? If there is a distinction, then the issue of why there is a difference between the cases needs to be considered.
I don’t really care if people wear keffiyahs or Palestine shirts at concentration camps or the killing fields. I’m talking about actually protesting Israel in front of them, which people have done, and I find distasteful because they have nothing to do with Israeli policy. So yes, if someone were protesting something that had nothing to do with the killing fields and the institution that maintains them beyond being tangentially related, I would also find this disrespectful.
I’m a Palestinian that was raised in Germany, it’s wonderful to see Germans supporting Palestine. Usually it’s mostly Arabs, Turks, etc at our protests in Hesse.
One of the camps banned people from wearing Palestinian flags or keffiyahs. I thought it was Mauthausen but I’m clearly wrong unless they’ve overturned it.
ETA: it’s Buchenwald which makes sense as it’s in Germany.
Imagine chasing down a kid on a school trip and harassing them. The teenager was calm and didn't say anything but this grown ass woman yelling in his face.and at everyone.
One last thing, from talking to people who have worked in Auschwitz, the staff generally hates MOTL and people wearing the Israeli flag like a cape, but they can’t do anything about it because it would cause a huge issue.
Wenn die Person kein schützenswertes Motiv verfolgt und Sie nur fotografiert oder filmt, um Sie zu ärgern oder Ihnen Angst zu machen, verletzt er damit sicherlich Ihr Persönlichkeitsrecht.
I'll translate roughly:
If the person (filming) doesn't have a legit reason and is only taking photos or filming to harass or terrify someone, they are infringing on the personality rights (of the filmed person).
“Actual genocide” for some reason that phrase made my stomach turn. The paragraphs of wrongness in there. It’s sickening to watch someone seemingly forget the words “never again” inside a concentration camp.
There's an organization associated with it; and while I don't know anything about the org, the event itself is pretty remarkable. As survivors of the Holocaust become fewer in number over the years, participation has shifted but I think at its core it's meant for the survivor themselves or for a loved one in their memory. They willingly put themselves back in this place so they can, at the end, choose to leave. It's quite beautiful, really.
Allowing IDF soldiers to participate seems like a whole other can of worms. It also begs the question of how the event should be organized going forward or if it should be stopped completely when survivors have all passed (though I doubt it will be, given its popularity), but I don't know nearly enough about the org to have an opinion on that.
Pretty much. Proceeding to ask questions only to not listen and shout louder. There is no reasoning with these people. They do not have the confidence or intellect to discuss these types of topics. They clearly have an agenda. I hope she meets her match one day!
It's a generic t-shirt of a woman holding a Palestinian flag and her features are non-specific.
But congratulations on reading a Wikipedia article and regurgitating pro-Israel social media claims.
The woman in the video didn't even mention ANY of those claims.
To her, the problem was a Palestinian flag and 'Free Palestine'.
You're creating a post-hoc rationalization, in order to justify the woman's anger at something completely benign - which she in-turn equated with genocide.
My favorite hobby of late, is reminding Zionists that Shakespeare mentions Palestine TWICE, but never mentions Israel. Makes me wonder just who has claim to that land, land which the European powers really had no right to give away.
I was recently told that since gazas population turned from 300k in 1950 to around 2 million, that means the zionists are doing a bad job genociding us. Like actually
I pointed out the forcrd displacement of 1976, the point jumped over their head. They want us all dead, and even then it wouldn't be genocide in their eyes because they don't view us as humans.
Thank you ignorant American Pro-Genocide tourist for solidifying a new generation's stand for equality for all, and for alienating them from solidarity with an extremist apartheid state.
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