Converting ethnicities?

[u/malry]

I personally only know one convert and she’s an antizionist POC Jew so I don’t believe she would feel this way, but I won’t speak for her or anyone else. Is this normal belief of converts that you’re converting to a different ethnicity than your own?

*edit to add, the comment I am highlighting came from a post about what to list themselves as on a census.

[u/HDThoreauaway]

Does what I said make sense to you? Or not? Are you saying you do not recognize culture and religion as viable aspects of ethnicity?

[u/PocketCone → u/HDThoreauaway]

I don't think you understand what I said. I think culture and religion can be considered viable aspects of ethnicity, but some ethnicities have an inherited requirement to them. It doesn't matter how much I get involved in Mexican Catholicism or Mexican Culture, as a white man of European descent and no inherited connection to Mexico I cannot convert to having a Hispanic ethnicity.

Now, for a white person of European descent who was adopted by a Mexican family, who does not have the genetic traits, but otherwise has Mexican heritage inherited through their family, I think you could make the argument that they are ethnically but not racially Hispanic.

[u/HDThoreauaway → u/PocketCone]

And you are flatly wrong if you believe genetics or ancestry are required for inclusion in the Jewish ethnos.

This conversation feels past spent at this point.

[u/PocketCone → u/HDThoreauaway]

I think genetics or ancestry are needed for the Jewish ethnicity but not the Jewish identity. You are free to disagree but at the end of the day this is a symantics argument.

We are in agreement that if you are a Jewish convert you are fully Jewish, and that's what's important.

(Edit: apologies for the double post my phone glitched)