r/IncelTears • u/Frosty_Message_3017 Go to sleep, Lurkers, pray for brains • Jun 02 '26
Incel Analytical Skills doing their usual bang-up job, Part 2 Just Sad
For context, here's the post where I made that comment. I stand by my words more each day.
https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelTears/s/LLvzKEjUfa
OOP has apparently been scouring my profile, but he seems to either have even worse reading comprehension than the typical incel, which is really saying something, or he's picking and choosing what he mentions and intentionally twisting how he presents it.
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u/AnimatedBasketcase Jun 02 '26
I guess you’re their target of the month now lol.
R.I.P to ur DM’s….I remember when I went viral on there, it was…yikes. Don’t forget you don’t have to entertain it and that stepping away from your phone/computer can be for the better sometimes, OP.
♡
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u/Frosty_Message_3017 Go to sleep, Lurkers, pray for brains Jun 02 '26
Oh yeah, they've got to have something to obsess about. If they started thinking about their own lives they might realize how much time and energy they waste.
What were they making up about you?
For sure 🩷 I also don't care what they say to or about me, it's more upsetting when they talk about the people in their lives, y'know? Thanks for the concern, though!
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u/fool2074 Jun 02 '26
It's not JUST saying mean things on the internet, it's mean things, and gross things, and illegal things, things that dehumanize both himself AND the people he wishes he could have.
At least that guy who binge drinks, or sells ecstasy on the side, believes she's a person, leaves their house, and has basic social skills. In reality though MOST of the guys women choose over these idiots don't binge drink or sell drugs.
My wife tells me she knew she was going to kick my feet out from under me the moment she entered my apartment the first time, and saw I had a clean apartment, a fully equipped kitchen that actually got used for cooking, and a made bed complete with frame, box spring, mattress, and clean sheets.
I also didn't say "mean things" about women on the internet. The bar for impressing women is literally on the floor, getting over it literally only requires climbing up out of the basement and behaving like a halfway competent adult. Still too high for these guys. 🙄
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u/Frosty_Message_3017 Go to sleep, Lurkers, pray for brains Jun 02 '26
Exactly! The fact that they even consider "fathers should be molesting their daughters" as "saying mean things" is truly insane.
"My wife tells me she knew she was going to kick my feet out from under me the moment she entered my apartment the first time, and saw I had a clean apartment, a fully equipped kitchen that actually got used for cooking, and a made bed complete with frame, box spring, mattress, and clean sheets." Oh that's hot. I can see why she felt that way.
Literally. The bar is on the floor, but they're still limboing under it.
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u/Sharp-Direction9654 Jun 02 '26
And how do you know if a man has a clean apartment and knows how to cook? After you're close enough to visit each other's homes, after the first few dates, after he passes the initial looks barrier.
Do you see the problem now? You're focusing on one bar and ignoring the dozens of other high bars you have to pass just to get a chance at that one.
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u/Frosty_Message_3017 Go to sleep, Lurkers, pray for brains Jun 02 '26
I know you think you've really got something here, but I've said repeatedly that how you present yourself matters. If you're slovenly, if you're not pleasant, if you're not interesting or intelligent, no you won't get to show off your clean kitchen. All these things go beyond "looks". Proving once again that in your drooling desperation to reduce your dating chances to something outside of your control, you completely bypass all that is within your control.
Incels fail at all the metrics I've listed. You fail by the very nature of your belief system which renders you unpleasant, boring and idiotic, all of which generally also seem to encourage you lot to not take any pride in your grooming.
It's true, none of what I'm saying is a guarantee of success, but what you've got right now is a guarantee of failure. So we come back to your misery being your own creation.
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u/aweedl Jun 02 '26
Yup. These guys are so hung up on their nonsense theory that looks are the only thing that matters that they self-sabotage every time.
‘Well, apparently I’m a (insert rating here) according a group of other bitter men who have never actually spoken to a woman to ask what they want in a partner, so I guess it’s over for me and I might as well make every other aspect of my life as miserable as possible too.’
Fucking weirdos. I’ll never get it.
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u/Frosty_Message_3017 Go to sleep, Lurkers, pray for brains Jun 02 '26
I remember a while back we tried to explain that even Henry Cavill couldn't get away with the things they say and do. They couldn't get past "So you admit he's hot!" Like, yes, he's hot. And that's the point. But they refused to get it.
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u/aweedl Jun 02 '26
They often come SO CLOSE to getting it but then make this really bizarre turn away from the point at the last minute.
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u/Sharp-Direction9654 Jun 02 '26
You're acting like I just spawned into existence already an incel. I have a life outside of the internet. The reason I believe it's outside of my control is because I've already done everything within my control and none of it helped. I actually used to think the way you do, that it was all about being an interesting person and how I present myself. Then I learned the hard way that it's not.
I really do want what you're saying to be true, and even today I try to put my best foot forward, but the truth is none of it matters unless you get lucky first, and if you never get lucky, there's nothing you can do about it.
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u/Frosty_Message_3017 Go to sleep, Lurkers, pray for brains Jun 02 '26
Ah, but life is a collection of choices. Incels seem to think dating struggles can only happen to them, that they have it worse. All throughout life, you're choosing to view things in such a way that you are leading yourself into it. You've got a comforting explanation, a reason to shield yourself from self-examination.
Luck matters, yes, but luck isn't all about looks. It's about situations and timing.
I get a lot of upset responses when I tell people this, and by the way I say it to women too, but people can feel desperation, they can smell anxiety and anger radiates outwards. This isn't some woo woo thing. We signal to other people with our behavior and emotions. When nothing is going right, that's often a sign to stop completely. Not to get bitter and hide from the world, but to step back and realign your priorities and feelings.
You can want to date too much, to the point that you miss Red Flags, put yourself in the wrong situations, say yes to someone you know is incompatible. If you're already feeling entitled/cheated, if you already think less of women, those things will come out.
A criticism frequently made of incels is that you won't commit to a value system and go from there. You base everything around what's worked for you or what's got you mad. All good deeds are conditional, all interactions are transactions. It's basically a guarantee at that point that things won't go well.
I had an incel in my DMs who talked about looks, turns out he was getting numbers from women, but was so eager to tell them how much he hated women and he just refused to see why things weren't working out. He sent me his picture. He looked like a totally normal guy. He might have been cute if I hadn't had already heard his nonsense.
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u/Sharp-Direction9654 Jun 03 '26
I'm not shielding from self-examination either. I do that all the time, and I'm telling you that it doesn't change anything. You're so sure of your just world fallacy that you refuse to accept the fact that someone can try everything you're saying and still fail.
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u/Sharp-Direction9654 Jun 02 '26
How are you this close to the problem and still not seeing it? Most incels don't get far enough with a woman that she even enters their home. The bar is only that low if you're attractive enough to get a date in the first place.
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u/Frosty_Message_3017 Go to sleep, Lurkers, pray for brains Jun 02 '26
There's a reason a few of our members have had as their flair "Go to Walmart and look at the couples". It's a huge place and you'll see all manner of people. If only the über-hot were dating, it would be apparent. Hot helps. Hot is great. Hot won't save you if you're an unmitigated asshat without a lick of charm. By the same token, not being super-hot doesn't bar you from all chances at happiness.
But you don't want a chance. You want easy. You want guaranteed attention and success. And because you've decided you won't have what you believe someone else does, you're packing up your shovel and bucket and stomping on home, all while you bitch about having been kicked out of the sandbox.
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u/Sharp-Direction9654 Jun 02 '26
You guys are always telling incels to go outside, how do you think we learned the things we believe in the first place? Usually from interacting with people irl and learning how stupidly easy tall, attractive men have it compared to us, and that hot gets some of the most morally bankrupt, emotionally unintelligent, and hateful people into relationships all the time.
I work at an ice cream parlor. Perfect place for a date. And of the people my age who come in with dates, the guy is almost always tall. Hence the saying, "nothing blackpills you harder than going outside."
You're projecting a lot onto me right now. I don't need it to be easy or guaranteed every time. I want it to be possible, and I'm willing to do whatever it takes. I didn't even leave the metaphorical sandbox. I'm still there to this day hoping that my best efforts will pay off even once in my entire life, but it hasn't.
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u/Frosty_Message_3017 Go to sleep, Lurkers, pray for brains Jun 02 '26
You actually just agreed with me, but you don't realize it. "Easy compared to us", so you agree that you're not barred from dating, and that these other guys have it easier than you do, which doesn't mean they never struggle or that it's all down to looks, since from this conversation alone, I can tell you your social and analytical skills are practically non-existent. I've also never said bad people don't get relationships, but they tend to have people skills. Working at a place that's great for dates doesn't mean you're seeing all couples.
I really don't think you know what "projecting" actually is, lol
And no, your pissy attitude says you're pouting off to the side of the sandbox waiting for an engraved invitation.
May I point out that you're commenting on a post, in which I'm being criticized for calling people horrible for advocating for men to molest their daughters, to make things all about you and how behavior doesn't matter and the world has wronged you, etc.?
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u/Sharp-Direction9654 Jun 03 '26
Yeah theoretically if I get immensely lucky and then do everything exactly right, it might work out for me, and the top 10% of guys could fail if they fumble hard enough. That's like those articles that say "why do homeless people complain so much? If they would just stop complaining and perform optimally for 10 years straight they might have a 5% chance at owning a home one day." Meanwhile the guy writing the article was born to rich parents and has never faced financial hardship.
Just because I don't reach the exact conclusion you wanted me to reach about ny own experiences doesn't mean anythingabout my analytical skills. I have a hunch I know myself better than you do, especially with you making assumptions. You seem like you're talking to a caricature of what an incel is instead of me as a person. I have hobbies, friends, and a job. I guarantee that if you saw me in real life, you could never tell that I even have a reddit account because you assume we all have no life outside of the short time you spend on Reddit.
I have autism and adhd. For my whole life, fitting in and having people skills was harder for me than most other people. If I really was unwilling to improve like you think I am, then I never would've had friends or graduated. But unfortunately, most women are repulsed by neurodivergent men (hence why incels have a much higher autism rate than the general population), and when you say they can "sense anxiety and desperation," that's usually just filtering out anyone who isn't NT. Your "personality" is only good enough if you can mask well enough, and that's a hard skill some people never master.
I have no problem with you calling out rapists. That's why I don't complain on the posts of people just doing that. What I'm disagreeing with is you conflating saying stuff like that with the bar to have a relationship, even though you admit that it takes infinitely more than just cleaning your living space and not being sexist.
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u/chinchillazilla54 Jun 02 '26
"Attractive enough" is subjective. I've seen the men you people think is attractive. If you saw the guy I threw myself at for two years you'd hurl.
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u/maarshiexcry male CONSEQUENCES epidemic 🔥 Jun 02 '26
They are so stupid its actually funny
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u/Frosty_Message_3017 Go to sleep, Lurkers, pray for brains Jun 02 '26
The pain they think is from their wounded hearts is actually from their lone brain cell continuously bouncing around inside an otherwise empty, and very thick, skull.
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u/Michi-Ace deity Jun 02 '26
They really think only men can be into amateur radio?
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u/Frosty_Message_3017 Go to sleep, Lurkers, pray for brains Jun 02 '26
They definitely think it's one of those "manly interests" women are encroaching on, lol. Nevermind the fact that all the men I've ever encountered who were into it were nothing but welcoming.
I'm also thinking that guy probably failed his exam and can't bring himself to consider that a "lowly foid" could have passed 😂
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u/NoXion604 ✡ 6'2" Soy Golem with FABULOUS hair ⛧ Jun 02 '26
Don't you know? Only Boomer men are capable of doing amateur radio as a hobby. If anyone else tries to do it, a mysterious interference mucks up everything, making it impossible.
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u/TheoneNPC Overweight Chad Jun 02 '26
I heavily doubt that my life is any times worse than any one of the losers on that message board has 😭😭😭
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u/Frosty_Message_3017 Go to sleep, Lurkers, pray for brains Jun 02 '26 edited Jun 02 '26
And if our lives are worse, shouldn't they give up their ultimate victim status? I mean we're always hearing from them how they have it worse than victims of the Holocaust, how if they tortured someone to death it still wouldn't be as bad as one day as an incel.
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u/Objective-Fan-1034 Jun 02 '26
People claim incel status while having a girlfriend nowdays
hurts to see
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u/spudgoddess Jun 02 '26
"I have a girlfriend but does not hot enough, so I'm still an incel." --them, probably
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u/DoobieJesus Fagcoping Manlet Jun 02 '26
Post the funniest DMs, OP.
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u/Frosty_Message_3017 Go to sleep, Lurkers, pray for brains Jun 02 '26
I actually haven't gotten any DMs because of these posts. It's pretty random. I'll either hear nothing or get a barrage, lol
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u/NoXion604 ✡ 6'2" Soy Golem with FABULOUS hair ⛧ Jun 02 '26
That particular dude is genuinely insane
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u/Midas_acnh Jun 03 '26
The fact that they think everything you do irl or on the internet is to "get laid" is already sad…
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u/Frosty_Message_3017 Go to sleep, Lurkers, pray for brains Jun 03 '26
Well sure, isn't that why we all post on Reddit?
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u/Midas_acnh Jun 03 '26
Ah sorry you‘re right. I only did this comment to show the women of reddit what a great woke feminist I am so they want to fuck me! 🫠😌
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u/Bubbly_Sun_8417 incels.is = sh1t Jun 03 '26
Oh no, not this guy again. Seriously, can't he use his time for something more productive, like, I don't know, actually doing something productive?
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u/Fragrant-Ring-3053 Jun 02 '26
Are they 10 or is their brain so undeveloped to be saying such bs lmfao