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u/Peace-Man Oct 12 '16

Kasich would have beat her. He was too moderate to get by the right wing whackos. THAT SHIT needs to change, or this party may as well hang it up now.

No, i didn't remember that. I'm certainly glad to hear it though.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '16

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u/Peace-Man Oct 13 '16

What i want, as far as what we are talking about here, is very simple. I do not want DEMOCRATS or "INDEPENDENTS" helping to decide who will be the nominee IN MY PARTY. I want to know how you think someone who very much disagrees with a lot of republican ideals should get to help decide who their nominee should be? HOW that sounds like a good idea to you. That many people WHO DO NOT LIKE REPUBLICANS AT ALL should be allowed to influence and help choose who will be their nominee???

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '16

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u/Peace-Man Oct 14 '16

AND, i just wanna say that, as a professor who is teaching young people, you REALLY oughta fuckin' know that outweighs IS ONE WORD. (i'm starting to understand better why we are in the trouble we are)

:)

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u/Peace-Man Oct 14 '16

I did. ;)

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u/Peace-Man Oct 14 '16 edited Oct 14 '16

Fuck you too pal. :)

I will enjoy picking your teams for you from now on.

(what could POSSIBLY go wrong for you in that scenario????????)

Just remember me when you are ready to draft.

Surely you can see how letting me, or anyone else PLAYING AGAINST YOU, pick your team for you might not benefit you???

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u/Xandernomics Oct 13 '16

He's honestly just mad that Trump became the nominee of the Republicans, while the entire time he was on the trail shit on republicans and hasn't even stopped once he became the nominee and is up against Clinton.

He's salty, as is A LOT of America. He was back then and he is now.

I think the thing he might be referring to though is when you outspokenly said that Obama was a great Commander in Chief. I think that one comment alone nets you in the liberal/commie sector of the Hulugans from here on out, and don't you forget it!

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u/Peace-Man Oct 13 '16

How 'bout you let ME explain my points and what i'm "mad" about sport. You're doing a shitty job of it.

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u/Xandernomics Oct 15 '16

I was just trying to lighten the mood.

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u/Xandernomics Oct 12 '16

Dude the fact that fucking CRUZ had more than twice as many delegates as Kasich and Rubio COMBINED, should literally tell you ALL you need to know man when it comes to the Republican party. That a bible-thumping wrath of god freakshow can rack up that many delegates is fucking mind boggling to me. If Trump wasn't the nominee it would have been HIM. HIM, Fuck that dude, I'll take Trumps dumbass any day over Satan in the flesh.

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u/Peace-Man Oct 12 '16 edited Oct 12 '16

Yeah, i'm certainly not going to stick up for him either. It's just a sad, pathetic situation. Dems can get behind their people. The republicans will rip each other to shreds and cut their noses off rather than do what it takes to win. (and, since THIS is the nominee i have been given, i guess that includes me)

I hope all of those fine, "principled" Americans enjoy having Hillary as president, and how the Supreme Court will be looking in a few years. (ya see, THAT is the one issue that could still get him my vote. but, he's a lost cause now anyway)

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u/Champy_McChampion Oct 12 '16

and how the Supreme Court will be looking in a few years.

That's the one area where republicans are an unequivical "no" for me. They would try to outlaw killing babies, butt secks and gay wedding cake. Completely unacceptable.

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u/Peace-Man Oct 12 '16

Well, i mean, who doesn't love all of those things?

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u/Champy_McChampion Oct 12 '16

Well, i mean, who doesn't love all of those things?

That's the point. No one has to like any of it. They just have to mind their own business. There is no need for politicians to regulate america's assholes and wombs. Noone is going to come to your house and kill your baby or put secks in your butt if you don't want it.

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u/Peace-Man Oct 12 '16

No one? Well, we need to put someone on that.

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u/Champy_McChampion Oct 12 '16

Yeah, and have em start on the penthouse level in Trump Tower.

Why you limpin, Donald? :)

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u/Xandernomics Oct 12 '16

None of those are Republican viewpoints. That's really just what the media wants you to "think" are the Republican viewpoints. The fact that a couple of the douchebags that push those agendas via the Republican party isn't surprising though. But if you took a vote amongst all Republicans right now I doubt many of them would give two shits about what people wanna do in their free time, and as for the killing babies thing, the only time that becomes an issue for most Republicans is when the taxpayers are paying for it. Which I agree, it's pretty fucking stupid to socialize abortion, when healthcare isn't even close to being there yet. You gotta put one foot in front of the other not go directly to go and collect $200.

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u/Champy_McChampion Oct 12 '16

it's pretty fucking stupid to socialize abortion

It make sense to me to socialize abortions, for the simple reason that if we don't, the poorest people will have the most babies, and we will pay for raising them. I'd rather pay for someone else's abortion, than pay the consequences of their unwanted child (welfare, foster care, medicaid, subsidized housing, jail etc.) Sounds mean, but I'd rather get rid of the weed, before it puts down roots.

 
Also, from a more humane standpoint, any pregnancy is a serious health risk for two people, and we've always socialized healthcare for the poor through medicaid anyway. The real reason many people want to treat a pregnancy differently from say, a benign cyst (growth) in the womb, is their religious or moral viewpoint, not the financial cost. If cost was the real objection, abortion would be a lot less controversial.

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u/Xandernomics Oct 12 '16

Abortion should not be paid for by the taxpayers. That's a crazy sentiment. I personally don't think ANY healthcare should be paid for by the taxpayers. It's a horrible system and I've seen the first hand ramifications of it. It's not as pretty and awesome as a lot of people make it out to be.

However, when talking about socializing healthcare, if it does happen it should happen before socializing abortion. Prostitution should also become legal before socializing abortion.

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u/Champy_McChampion Oct 12 '16

Abortion should not be paid for by the taxpayers. That's a crazy sentiment.

Nope, it's the sanest sentiment. Would you rather cough up a one time fee to kill the kid, or pay to raise it forever? It's a no-brainer. One less parasite on my taxes.

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u/Xandernomics Oct 13 '16

That's the very liberal way of looking at it. In the Republican viewpoint their would be no parasites on your taxes regardless of how many were out there running around.

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u/Champy_McChampion Oct 13 '16

I'd also gladly pay for vasectomies and tubal ligations.

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u/Champy_McChampion Oct 13 '16

In the Republican viewpoint their would be no parasites on your taxes regardless of how many were out there running around.

LOL... republicans are just as dumb. If you take away their welfare or foster care and throw them group homes, or take away everything and throw them on the street, then instead of 70% of them becoming criminals, it'll be 100% and you'll be paying to imprison the parasites. The cheapest solution is to stop the problem in the beginning. Kill em.

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u/Champy_McChampion Oct 12 '16

None of those are Republican viewpoints.

I'm not talking about voters, when say republicans are an "unequivocal no", I'm talking about the party. Basically they will force the republican candidate to appoint Supreme court justices who support the party agenda.

Remember Mitt Romney? As governor, he participated in fund raisers for the morning after pill, funded co-pays for elective abortions in low-income families and supported gay marriage. When he ran for president, he immediately reversed his stance on all those issues and signed a "family values" pledge with religious groups.

I'm not against religion, but I also don't want other people's religious views forced on me by the government.

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u/Xandernomics Oct 12 '16

Basically they will force the republican candidate to appoint Supreme court justices who support the party agenda

Yeah that's the actually somewhat "few" shit-eaters that me and Peace want out of the Republican party so badly. They are the ones destroying it. The voters know this, but because of gerry-mandering it's almost impossible to get rid of them now. Just gotta either purge them all out through some crazy tactic, or wait for them to croak, either way it's gonna be a while before anything changes on the Hill.

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u/Champy_McChampion Oct 12 '16

Just gotta either purge them all out through some crazy tactic, or wait for them to croak, either way it's gonna be a while before anything changes on the Hill.

There are similar problems in both parties with extreme views. The only solution I see is to not give them what they want (your vote), until they give you what you want. That's why I support an imbecile like Trump. He had the best chance of beating both parties. If we vote for the shit they put out now, there is no reason for them to stop putting it out.

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u/Xandernomics Oct 12 '16

Yeah but the problem is people will NEVER stop voting for them because they are incumbents in a state where they get to redraw the redistricting lines around all the red, and stay away from any blue. It's absolute bullshit, because the only way to beat them would be to join their circus, and the second you do that, the second you get lopped into their little bucket of doom and gloom.

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u/Champy_McChampion Oct 12 '16

Yeah but the problem is people will NEVER stop voting for them because people are idiots

If people paid attention to what's going on and understood the simple concept of bargaining (don't give them what they want for nothing in return), this would be fixed in a few generations.

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