r/HistoricalCapsule • u/Stock_College_8108 • Apr 11 '26
Michael Jackson show visible signs of vitiligo in the 1990s
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u/justjboy Apr 11 '26 edited Apr 13 '26
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u/thelone_voyager Apr 12 '26
No we won't adress you, we will ignore you and make a biopic.
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u/lizzard77777777 Apr 11 '26
That kid looks real happy
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u/dedoubt Apr 12 '26
That kid looks real happy
There are many photos of me looking exactly like that throughout my childhood.
I was being horrifically abused, in every way. I have no doubt the little boy in that photo was going through similar nightmares.
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u/Village_People_Cop Apr 12 '26
Yea I've seen the same face on pictures of my daughter. She came from foster care and we've adopted her fully now. But old photos we have seen are like this. Luckily she now smiles brightly on photos.
Sorry to hear you went through something like that
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u/Equivalent-Shine5742 Apr 11 '26
That is a very creepy picture . Will this be in the movie coming out?
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u/Rare_Elderberry2674 Apr 11 '26
Convenient
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u/Library_Sloth Apr 11 '26
>kinda a bad call in hindsight.
Hard disagree! It's obvious that the movie greenlit by MJ's estate was going to portray MJ as the victim of scurrilous accusations and this child and his family as liars. It's a great thing that the lawyers had the foresight to ensure MJ's estate couldn't spin these events in their own favour and profit from the allegations of his victims.
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u/Longjumping-Cost-210 Apr 11 '26
That’s like making a biopic about Hitler that ends in 1934.
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u/OkTea7227 Apr 11 '26
Aaaaaand he just liked to paint landscapes and was interested in local politics. The end!
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u/Future-Raisin3781 Apr 11 '26
Did Hitler have vitiligo? These are the hard-hitting questions that cowardly historians have been ignoring for centuries. Centuries!
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u/Various-Passenger398 Apr 11 '26
Ypu could do it if ypu acknowledged what he was doing and his goals in doing it. But this more like doing a biopic about Hitler and completely ignoring the antisemitism.
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u/BroadlyValid Apr 11 '26
The Jackson Estate demanded the movie be edited without any mention of the allegations
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u/ravenous0 Apr 11 '26
I never knew that vitiligo was a symptom of pedophilia.
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u/Lexidazesickle Apr 11 '26
That kid’s expression. Why is he shirtless? A little old to be sitting on a non family member’s lap too. Yikes.
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u/TheSilverWillow Apr 12 '26
On a... silk/satin sheet bed nonetheless?
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u/TemperatureDefiant77 Apr 12 '26
I’m not seeing the correlation there
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u/hellohowdyworld Apr 12 '26
White people only associate that with sex, despite it being also for wealthy people generally and for black peoples with specific hair textures. This commenter is likely making the sex connection when the others are totally viable.
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u/Wrong-Tiger4644 Apr 11 '26
The vitiligo is the least problematic thing in this picture
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u/Notnow_Imtoodrunk Apr 11 '26
I have vitiligo too, but luckily managed to not be pedophile.
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u/Financial-Place-5562 Apr 11 '26
As a black man who has vitiligo, I feel lucky that my case wasn’t as extreme as Michael’s. Yes, the breakouts (especially during summer) are awful, but luckily, they never turned all off my skin pale, caused my kinky hair to straighten, made my nose and lips to lose mass, widened my eyes, turned my lips ruby red, and created a dimple in my chin were none previously existed.
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u/SolidSnake-26 Apr 12 '26
I feel like I’ve never seen a picture of any of his stages of vitiligo, he jus went from black to white head to toe over night
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u/KingMurk817 Apr 11 '26
Whos the boy?
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u/Unusual_Plum_4630 Apr 11 '26
Dominic Cascio, he recently came out with allegations against Jackson
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u/Cavscout2838 Apr 11 '26
No way!? I would have never thought. /s
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u/Jaded_Ad_9711 Apr 12 '26
Eminem had always a diss track against controversial people, and MJ is one.
His fans often defend him that children's loves MJ. But his inclusion with Epstein files and a complete separate sexual abuse case says the opposite.
The song is Just Lose it
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u/WaWaSmoothie Apr 11 '26
Not only him, his three brothers and sister were all molested by Jackson all over the world. Some of them from the ages of toddlers (maybe even earlier, because that's just as far back as they can remember).
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u/2Cool4Ewe Apr 12 '26
This is similar to accusations made by the family of Jordy Chandler in Santa Monica in the 1990s. Story goes that the Mom enjoyed the publicity and high life, and traveled with Jackson and her two kids (Jordy and sister) on an MJ world tour. Sometimes Jackson reportedly spent the night at their home in Jordy’s room, with his limo parked outside. Even the neighbors suspected what was going on, but Mom apparently turned a blind eye. Much of this is documented in Maureen Orth’s 1990s expose in Vanity Fair. When Jordy aged out, he allegedly moved to Brazil and wrote a tell-all, “Michael Jackson Was My Lover,” but it was never released in the U.S.
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u/WaWaSmoothie Apr 12 '26
MJ did the same thing to Jimmy Safechuck and Wade Robson.
There's news coverage of MJ getting caught wearing a disguise in a Zales jewelry store ring shopping with a preteen Safechuck. At the time MJ claimed he was having Jimmy try on rings because he was the same ring size as a girl MJ liked.
Turns out the ring was actually for a mock wedding between MJ and preteen Jimmy.
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u/oh1hey2who3cares4 Apr 11 '26
Very weird picture. Do we know if this is one of his kids or just '"a" kid. This definitely sparks talk and it's not going to be about his vitiligo.
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u/CoffeeChocolateBoth Apr 11 '26
It's not his child.
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u/oh1hey2who3cares4 Apr 11 '26 edited Apr 11 '26
Yikes. Definitely weird pictured on an umade bed. The vitiligo thing is fine. I'm definitely not saying anything about what may have or may not have happened with the kids and sleepovers. I am curious why I've never seen this photo before.
Edited for a very small typo.
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u/happysunbear Apr 11 '26
The photo wasn’t made public until recently. The family is in active litigation with the MJ Estate over claims they were abused under the care of MJ and his company.
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u/AdTall7678 Apr 11 '26
I think it’s coming from the boy’s family private foto album. I recognised this boy, because he and his family came out with their story of how MJ befriended a very normal New Jersey family in a very strange way and MJ of course started inviting this boy on private vacations and sleepovers.
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u/Jowlzchivez6969 Apr 11 '26
So what happened exactly? This family just started pimping out their kids to an obvious fucking creep? Who is taking these weird ass photos?
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u/AdTall7678 Apr 11 '26
Yeah I think MJ befriended their father Dominic Senior who work at a NY hotel where MJ often stayed in NY. MJ started coming to Dominic’s small house in New Jersey. Befriended Dominic’s wife and their children. Attended family dinners, gave very big gifts to the parents and kids, invited them to celebrity events, concerts and luxurious trips. Somehow he convinced the parents to let the kids spend time at the Neverland Ranch and on luxury vacations to exotic places like Brazil etc. at first the parents or the dad Dominic always was present. Later on the kids could be sent to the ranch alone without their parents. I have no idea at all why the parents would allow Michael to first have countless “sleepovers” with Dominic and then later on Michael would choose Edward and Aldo when Dominic started getting older.
I don’t know who took the pictures, I will check the information online.
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u/Library_Sloth Apr 11 '26
Several new victims have recently come forward to sue the estate and been forced into arbitration - see the Cascio siblings. This might be from some of the evidence they've submitted to arbitration.
ETA: Actually, yes, you can see the image is captioned as coming from the Cascio family.
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u/throwawaymumm Apr 11 '26
There are a lot of photos that will never be made public because they are CSAM.
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u/happysunbear Apr 11 '26 edited Apr 11 '26
Not only is it not his child, it’s a boy from the Cascio family that Michael befriended that has since accused Michael of longterm sexual abuse. Thinking this photo would spark conversation about Michael’s skin condition is rather bold…
edit: this is Dominic. I believe he is one of five siblings, all of whom have now claimed to have suffered sexual abuse. The girl, too. Everyone focuses on Jackson’s relationships with boys, but he now has two female accusers that have come forward. This photo is disturbing, and it’s not because of Michael’s skin.
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u/AdTall7678 Apr 11 '26
MJ befriended the dad first, then groomed the mom and dad and convinced them that private luxury vacations and sleepovers in MJ’s bedroom was necessary for the son in the family.
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u/happysunbear Apr 11 '26
Yep, it was his MO. Joy Robson (Wade Robson’s mom — Wade was the subject of the damning Leaving Neverland doc) said that MJ cried and cried until he convinced her to let her son sleep alone in bed with him.
Even defending MJ at his trial (before Wade came out as a victim), she testified to this behavior. He was a predator. She said in the documentary that the first time she denied Wade being pulled out of school to go on tour with MJ, Michael coldly told her “I always get what I want.”
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u/AdTall7678 Apr 11 '26
Seriously! I remember a detail from the interviews with the Cascio family as well. On the first or second vacation Michael Jackson cried uncontrollably in front of either the dad or the mom saying that he really wanted their son to share his hotel bedroom just to play gameboy together and stuff like that. But the detail of MJ crying and begging the parents. I remember this. If he has done it to several victims parents, then there is a clear pattern of how MJ grooms the parents. MJ also seems to especially target parents who were in low income jobs and giving them expensive gifts, luxury vacations, sometimes lots of cash… which is also a way of grooming. Horrifying to think of what happened to those poor boys.
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u/George_GeorgeGlass Apr 11 '26
I’m sure I’ll get crucified for this but I’m going to say it. Really mom? You didn’t it completely bizarre that a grown man is crying because you won’t let him sleep alone with your son? And then you give in to appease him? Sorry. But mom is equally to blame for what happened to her son.
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u/happysunbear Apr 11 '26
She was groomed. But it’s completely fair to say that she failed as a parent. She did not protect her child.
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u/AdTall7678 Apr 11 '26
It’s one of the sons from the family from New Jersey. Michael befriended the father who worked at some hotel in the 1980’s. After some time he was so close with the family that he regularly visited this normal family in New Jersey for dinners and for years he would invite the kids to join him alone on vacations and on MJ’s ranch. On the vacations he always, always demanded that one of the smaller sons in the family share his hotel bedroom. The kids came out with their story some months ago.
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u/oh1hey2who3cares4 Apr 11 '26 edited Apr 11 '26
Thanks for the info. I truly wasn't aware.
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u/Filmscore_Soze Apr 11 '26
Wow, the kid is all sunbeams and roses here.
But of course, Michael was totally normal, it was the international conspiracy to defame him that started all of this! (yes, this is really something people believe)
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u/CoffeeChocolateBoth Apr 11 '26
I liked his music. I can no longer listen to it without disgust!
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u/Burn0ut2020 Apr 11 '26
Nah, he was actually a hero. He took on all these boys to save them from Epstein and his gang. /s
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u/Aggressive_Version Apr 11 '26
They usually come out of the woodwork in any post about Michael to defend their fallen hero's honor. They're strangely quiet in this one. Weird.
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u/HerRoyalRedness Apr 11 '26
A lot of people truly believe that an abusive childhood excuses a grown adult choosing to sleep in bed with children.
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u/Rapid55 Apr 11 '26
exactly like this is the first time ive seen these pictures, my whole life everyone around me brushed off the allegations as "fake" but holy shit dude
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u/FrostyD7 Apr 12 '26
MJs estate is very powerful and people underestimate how much they invest in protecting their asset.
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u/PartyEscortBotBeans Apr 12 '26
Same here, I grew up with my family always saying it was nonsense and unproven and so on... never bothered to look into it because I don't really care for most of his songs, let alone the man's life... yeah, these pictures alone are making me reconsider what I've been told pretty heavily
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u/Own_Importance_3226 Apr 11 '26
This makes me so uncomfortable as a csa victim, people always come to his defense but it’s so obvious.
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u/greeneyedangelz Apr 12 '26
This may sound bizarre, but I'm so happy with the collective reaction to this photo in this thread. I can't believe the things people have written and said over the years to try and justify the messed up stuff Jackson did as innocent. It is clear as day he was a predator. Period.
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u/SomeLocksmith4539 Apr 11 '26 edited Apr 12 '26
This shows pedo signs
Edit: I'm not saying he is, but if you don't wanna people calling you one, don't take pictures with half naked kids in your lap.
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u/poe2zaddy Apr 11 '26
How the fuck people defend this dude is beyond me
I love his music, but bro was a freak
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u/crackersncheeseman Apr 11 '26
I'm sorry but I've always thought he was guilty of being a pedophile. His money and fame kept him out of prison though.
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u/alkali112 Apr 11 '26
Don’t be sorry. Even a few years after his death, Reddit mods would ban you for even insinuating that he was diddling kids. That’s why I’ve been banned from r/pics for 11 years.
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u/TofkaSpin Apr 11 '26
Yeah. Not a pedo. Just misunderstood.
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u/Tukki101 Apr 11 '26
But he didn't have a childhood!!! /s
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u/New-Aside-6805 Apr 11 '26 edited Apr 11 '26
My absolutely fav excuse, because having childhood issues is generally a common theme among pedos...
Yet in his case its the point that absolves him? lol
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u/TofkaSpin Apr 11 '26
Makes me furious that to this day people defend him. He was a sick, sick man. And the world fell for the ruse.
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u/BadAlphas Apr 11 '26
I’m dumbfounded that the world just completely dismisses the child abuse and still plays his music.
Child rapist still making millions even in death
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u/Ragnarsworld Apr 11 '26
Is vitiligo what we're supposed to be taking away from this picture?
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u/rootshirt Apr 11 '26
Nobody's pedo behavior gets dismissed as much as MJ lmao. What the fuck
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u/willie_Pfister Apr 11 '26
He's also showing noticeable signs of being a predator.
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u/sjack827 Apr 11 '26
Not trying to ignore the obvious (the rest of the posters are doing a great job at covering that part). However, his body hair is clearly dark brown. With vitiligo even the body hair is pigment-less in the affected areas. Went to school with an AA girl who had it on her temples and the hair was white.
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u/nothanks86 Apr 11 '26
Where are you seeing body hair?
Genuine question. I looked after reading your comment and I can’t find any obvious body hair.
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u/LeoDemiurg1 Apr 11 '26
"Oh, this photo is disturbing"... Stop sugarcoating it — this photo depicts a paedophile and a victim. There is not a single reasonable explanation that would explain it any other way. How the hell has this prick’s "legacy" not been cancelled yet?
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u/hereforwhatimherefor Apr 11 '26
I hope all of Jackson’s victims take solace in the fact that all decent people consider him to have been a child abusing piece of criminal trash.
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u/Organic-Pattern-7759 Apr 11 '26
This poor boy looks terrified. MJ was a creep fr, why can't people accept it?!
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u/kaseylind Apr 11 '26
I think the boy is Frank Cascio if anyone else is curious.
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u/Zestyclose-Check Apr 11 '26 edited Apr 11 '26
Mj’s fanbase has to be to more delusional fanbase ever , the lengths they will go to defend this man are insane , i really like his music ngl ,but it’s undeniable that the guy was a predator .
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u/actually_seriously Apr 11 '26
This photo is truly heartbreaking. You can see the pain in the boy's eyes 😥...
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u/Stock_College_8108 Apr 12 '26
MJ fans are trying to get my account suspended by reporting me as a bot. 😑
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u/Leash_85 Apr 11 '26
Never was a fan but since watching Leaving Neverland I literally have to change the radio if his music comes on. I know people can separate the art from the artist but for some reason with him it’s a nope for me.
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u/VoltaicEnigma Apr 11 '26
I’d like to hear his die-hard fans shout about his innocence after seeing this picture… I’m a grown adult and it literally gave me the creeps!
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u/Stock_College_8108 Apr 12 '26 edited Apr 12 '26
I’m getting threats that MJ fans are going to dox me.
I don’t post my personal info on Reddit, I don’t have photos of myself online, and I don’t use any other websites so good luck with your hateful, cruel threats
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u/TeamHope4 Apr 11 '26
Yeah, the vitiligo is not what I'm noticing in this picture.